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  1. Māori already have the same agency as all other New Zealanders and have since the Treaty was signed.

    Article Three of the Treaty states that Maori shall have “the same rights and duties of citizenship as the people of England”

    1. That is true and why it has been important that the violations of those rights over generations be recognized and addressed.

  2. Does my head look fat in this? …a million being spent daily to kettle beneficiaries into unsafe motels… Too true. Heat and steam are building up till the kettle starts to whistle. It’s old fashioned to use a whistling kettle. But the forces that produce heat iare eternal. And we all drink tea don’t we. Don’t we?

  3. Maori were not given citizenship. Citizenship didn’t exist as a legal construct anywhere in the empire. Citizenship and subject status are two very different things. Citizens are people who have agency, are equal and have sovereignty. A person who is a subject is basically under the power of another, subject to their whim. Some Chiefs well knew the difference, for example Hongi Hika demonstrated he understood the difference on his return from Britain (members of Ngapuhi subject to rangatira, americans had citizenship). Citizen status wasn’t created in britain until Atlee’s 1948 Nationality Act. new school texts are (deliberately?) eroneously use the word citizenship. History is being rewritten.

  4. “Our systems of power and control are all white, our dominant culture is white” – thats is why everyone wants to come and live here not China or South Africa.

  5. The push to biculturalism has seen multiculturism abandoned
    The hundreds of thousands of immigrants and foreign cultures both historic and recent that cannot claim to be either Māori or Pakeha are feeling ignored and excluded.

  6. Its not Maori Per se Martyn. I should know I am married to one. Its not the three Maori in Act. Maori are not hive minds.

    Its activists and that includes many Pakeha who support cogovernance. Many who are 1/16th Maori.

    Women were the last in this country to receive the vote. Maori men got it before women. If you think I am going to support anything that dilutes my vote, think again

  7. Good old TDB, so damn keen to establish a new land-owning aristocracy, complete with status openly based on ancestry.

    But hey, my ancestors were Irish and working class English, so therefore somehow I personally bear collective guilt for what they probably didn’t even do a century and a half before I was born.

  8. I’m Pakeha, old. When I grew up in Chch it was a white man’s town. I first experienced Maori at uni, didn’t even consider that there might be another culture in NZ. A night listening to Bill Nepia and Rangi Mete Kingi changed that. Whina Cooper, Bastion Point reinforced it. I’m sure those who have passed would be delighted we have a national day for Matariki.

    Building a nation isn’t easy and takes generations. Ranginui Walker noted that the country’s race problems would be solved ‘in the bedrooms of the nation.’ Ultimately I am too much a democrat to agree to co-governance. Where I differ with those ACT types is that I’m happy our institutions are redesigned in the spirit of the Tiriti to benefit and protect all Aotearoans. If Maori lead the way, even better.

  9. So who thinks Maori will be advanced by voting in 2 show ponies and a ring master

  10. Maori won’t be advanced by voting in Luxon, Willis and Collins, so you are right Trevor. Actually too far right.

  11. This may come as a shock but the evil white man (always white of course) has not just disembarked from HIS sailing ship from England and is currently sitting in a button leather chair in the Northern Club, saluting Queen Victoria, sipping brandy, smoking cigars, plotting the demise of the Maori People and their herd of rainbow coloured unicorns. No. They are trying to get on with life the best they can and that could very well be from a position of basic subsitence, wondering how they are going to pay next week’s bills.

    The progressive left see only race, racism and victims (non maori excluded), the rest of the political world see only partners!

  12. The major decision that must be made is are we an ethno state with different laws, different unequal individual political rights, different taxation , and different land rights, dependent on our ancestors or is everyone going to be politically equal under the same law.
    Absolutely every other political question is secondary because barring a revolution this one will override them

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