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  1. It is 2023 and as a female Boomer and observer of societal change over many decades, I have to wonder why men with mindsets like Christopher Luxon still exist. Have we learned nothing?

    1. Because Pru, government by a rabble of commie/ socialists and workers and those coloured people is an affront to the natural order of things. St Christopher and his disciples have been anointed by the squatocracy to rectify the situation and restore everyone to their rightful place.

    2. NZ is chock full of people with this mindset and that is the dark beast that Luxon is digging out of it’s shallow grave. A shallow grave that National previously helped to dig and like you I thought this type of race baiting politics was over in NZ. Luxon has made short shrift of that belief yesterday – we’re going back to the 80’s and 90’s.

      1. oh why can’t we all just get along and aspire to be good kiwis like everyone else who is decent like me – we’re all in this together and isn’t it lovely to live as an homogeneous piece of boneless spam where no one gets hurt and it’s all guffaws and back slaps – all this bother over nothing, just have a cup of tea and a lie down and let our lovely Christopher (not the commie one who is the devils spawn and all his followers can go to hell) take care of things. myopia will win the day.

    3. Society is the product of economic processes. Luxon is neoliberal man, Ardern neoliberal woman. If you want compassion, then the neoliberalism and the neoliberals need to be removed.

      1. Another fucking misogynist racist, cowering behind a Muslim-sounding name. You should have called yourself Kubla Khan and embraced your opium-rabid delusion.

        So, your Bannonites and ilk have removed the socialist PM, with hateful dirty politics
        How are you going to get rid of Luxon?
        You’re not Mohammed.

        Judith Collins was front and behind centre with Chris Luxon on Prime News, tonight, 25/1/2023. FFS!

        You’re going to keep on putting the boot into a left-wing government, under the guise of attacking ‘neoliberalism’.

        In other words, promoting National and ACT, who have a 34 year symbiotic-parasitic relationship with National and ACT.

        Calling absolute bullshi!t Mohammed on your right-wing, gobshite revisionism of neoliberal history. Even Wikipedia proves you wrong on many counts Mohammed.

        No argument that ACT infiltrated Labour 1984 to 1988….. then ACT and National has gone and will go hand in hand with ACT from 1988 to 2022 and will be coalition partners beyond. There were even discussions about David Seymour leading the National Party and beyond! David Seymour put out his100 – day Coalition Plan for National and ACT:

        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/07/david-seymour-s-plan-for-first-100-days-in-national-act-coalition.html

        ACT and NATIONAL after 1988

        From 1988 on, there is a deliberate and planned symbiotic, parasitic relationship between National and ACT. Neoliberalism goes hand in hand with National and ACT. Their policies are so alike.

        The name ACT comes from the initials of the Association of Consumers and Taxpayers, founded in 1993 by Sir Roger Douglas and Derek Quigley….
        then…..
        Don Brash National and ACT
        1988 2002 Reserve Bank Governor
        2002–2005 47th List 5 National
        2005–2007 48th List 1 National
        April 2011, still a National Party member ACT Party Leader

        Roger Douglas National and ACT
        2008–2011 49th List MP for ACT

        John Banks National and ACT
        1990–1993 43rd Whangarei National
        1993–1996 44th Whangarei National
        1996–1999 45th Whangarei National
        2011–2014 50th Epsom ACT

        Richard Prebble National and ACT
        Leader ACT from 1996 to 2004….
        1996–1999 ACT
        1999–2002 ACT
        2002–2005 ACT

        How many alliances between ACT and Labour between 1988 and 2022 NONE – ZERO – ZILCH

        You better get your right-wing pals at DPHQ (Dirty Politics Head Quarters) to delete all the links between National and ACT, that were clearly shown through a cursory glance of Wikipedia.

        Wi Pedia

  2. It was exceptional politics of Luxon to announce Nationals opposition to co-governance at Ratana. The two Labour PMs were there and I know not a single word either said.

    1. It was exceptional,  exceptionally inept, face palm embarrassing and failed in recognizing the whole history, origins and kaupapa of the people of Ratana which drove them from being a religious movement to evolving further into politics – ie. advancing the social and economic well-being of people through having a political voice at the top table. Surprise,  democratically elected representation !

      The take of Luxon yesterday was cringeworthy, humiliating for any of his ‘ fanboys’  who ever had one iota of wisdom…
      Get invited to birthday celebrations , walk on host’s property, punch birthday boy in throat and declare… F#$+ you lot being at the table…
      Misappropriate the occasion as being all about yourself to electioneer…
      Deliver school boy lecture to the tens of thousands of Ratana followers and direct descendants sitting in front of you, on your version of equality….. ( the bloody irony -the oppressor telling the oppressed whose taken lands created the oppressor’s disproportionate,  excessive wealth)….
      Exceptionally ignorant !

      1. You would have condemned him if instead of telling it like we all know it is he used false words that were not true .National if elected to power will disgard much of the divisive work that Labour is trying to sneak through and work to improve the lot of all NZ people not just pockets based on race .

  3. More evidence both political parties need to go. Terrible leaders, terrible policies (which are near identical), and no real popularity.

    If you were directing a movie, would you cast any of these clowns as a world leader?

    When we finally get a left-wing party again, they will need to drop all the racialist politics for good. The new party must ensure all solutions are universal, and reject claims that the working people must be split into “multiple cultures”.

  4. Excellent article. TBH I didn’t think National would take the path that Luxon stepped onto yesterday – too much like Don Brash. But they have taken that path very explicitly and that is a little frightening.
    It is underpinned by a willful disregard of our history and any serious discussion about how we move forward given that history. If a democracy does not care for it’s minorities it is mob rule.
    A big dollop of blame needs to go the government who have been 100% absent when it comes to front footing and leading on difficult issues like 3 waters and co-governance both of which are critical to our future in terms of infrastructure and race relations. The governments lack of communication and cut through on these issues confounding.
    It’s kind of a pattern – CGT ruled out, better treatment of beneficiaries ruled out, the Fair Pay Act (passed into law) that no one has heard of and I’m guessing, now, that co-governance will be dropped to appease NZ white middle class. It builds a picture of a government afraid of it’s own principles and beliefs and the electorate. Or is this how democracy works – craven cowering to an over entitled, angry and ignorant majority.

  5. Mahuta should release the Crown Law advice she claims she has which justifies 3 Waters based on the Treaty of Waitangi. She won’t and hasn’t because it says no such thing. Its not the right that are whipping up race based conspiracy theories…most open and transparent government ever, yeah right

  6. I do feel that Chris Luxon has made comments, at Ratana and elsewhere, which are divisive, immature, unintelligent, etc.

    Moreover this man is not really being held to account by his party for still being quite low in the polls, and this is election year!

  7. Luxon is so full of it. He said on newshub that he has no problem with delivery of services/utilities by councils under a co governance model. But at a national level it’s “divisive”.

    He has also said he wants water infrastructure to stay with councils. So if all the councils manage the water assets, with iwi, for those very same New Zealanders what the f*ck is the difference? Would that not be divisive?

    1. 2 different issues Wheel, you forget that Maori are tribal so dealing with one group on an issue can result in a very different outcome than dealing with another group on the same issue. One size does not fit all despite what the govt implies in its approach.

      And to my mind, Labour using the term “CO Governance’ to label something else entirely is at the heart of the problem.

      They should have explained what they meant at Day 1 and invited NZers on a journey with them. Its a bit rich Chippie saying we dont understand what ‘Co Governance is’ when his govt has locked us out of the conversation for years. Co Governance is not seperatism and it is not unequal voting rights which is where this government is very deliberately heading.

      I dont support National but am glad they have at least come out and clarified their agenda before the election. If it wins them votes (or doesnt) at least it is a lot more honest than this Labour Govt who dragged this radical interpretation out and made it the central pillar of their government without informing the electorate before the election.

      1. Fantail, I would be of the opinion that pakeha are very much tribal in the sense that dealing with one bunch will give you a very different answer with another bunch. You will still have to help me understand Luxon’s argument. If councils in the main centres, for example, retain the management of water assets and do that with iwi that’s not divisive. But centralised management with iwi to serve the same people would be?

  8. Co Government needs to go. The secret ways its been shifted forward show its a disgrace.

    1. So how far back should we go, Key and Finlayson, they started co governance.

  9. Exactly, Prunella. It’s frightening to see the ghosts of the 1950’s resurface, as if in a waking nightmare.

  10. There were much simpler ways that the “Waitangi Tribunal ruling into water ownership triggered by Key selling 49% of the hydro assets” could have been addressed. Like seizing it all back without compensation. Of course, that would have been a principled left-wing position sooooo….

    1. Agreed, let’s repossess our assets especially such strategically important ones such as water and the power generation and transmission infrastructure and supply power to industry and domestic consumers on a cost plus bsis

  11. The patronising upper class especially those who are white and well-off make their own rules because they are deserving to say their minds, whatever.

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