Let’s talk about legitimising the Proud Boys and why isn’t Destiny Church on the Terrorist watchlist?
I honestly can not believe this…
It’s no longer illegal to be a proudly violent Proud Boy
New Zealand has lifted the terrorist group designation from the extremist group the Proud Boys, sparking fears their members may resurface
…what on earth was the rational for legitimising the Proud Boys FFS?
Was it some weird attempt to curry favour with Trump, or does Chris Luxon honestly not believe the Proud Boys are a domestic terrorism threat?
Talking of domestic terrorism threat, why isn’t Destiny Church at least on a watch list?
Destiny Church’s Brian Tamaki protests against ‘foreign’ religions in NZ
Destiny Church leader Brian Tamaki is leading a march down Queen St, claiming “the spread of non-Christian religions is now out of control” in New Zealand.
The march started at noon in Aotea Square on Auckland’s Queen St.
Tamaki and his supporters denounced Muslim, Buddhist, Sikh and Palestinian communities at their rally in central Auckland this afternoon.
“Tear it, boys”, the self-described Bishop told supporters holding a Buddhist flag, among several they destroyed while performing haka.
Palestine, Islam, Buddhist and Sikh flags were torn and stomped on by the men, in video footage shot as Tamaki spoke.
Ummmmm, the Bish knows that ‘Palestine’ isn’t a religion right?
When his Christofascist Brown Shirts for Christ aren’t bravely beating up librarians and story telling drag queens, they are on the street harassing other people of different faiths.
Look.
I don’t care what magical flying invisible wizard you believe in, this is a liberal progressive democracy – you are free to believe what you want, but when you start trying to invoke religious violence on the street, shouldn’t you be forced to fuck off?
How does Brian constantly make Jesus and God so uncool and malicious?
Why are we allowing Christofascist Brown Shirts for Christ and Crypto-fascist Proud Boys legitimised?
Why is it ok for these violent street thugs to be protected by the State?
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Luxon needs to keep Destiny on side ,to be used as a weapon against Maori down the track before the next election .Its called BY MAORI FOR PAKEHA .
The removal of “The Proud Boys” from New Zealand’s register of terrorist entities should surprise no one.
The Proud Boys were designated as terrorists in New Zealand under the Biden administration.
The Proud Boys haven’t changed a jot but the US government has.
The Biden administration declared the Proud Boys to be terrorists because they supported Donald Trump. The New Zealand government dutifully followed suit. When Donald Trump returned to the presidency, naturally he revoked the Proud Boys terrorist designation. Again, New Zealand dutifully followed suit, albeit under a different government.
Whether one is designated a “terrorist” by the New Zealand government has nothing to do with what one says or how one acts. It is determined solely by how one is viewed by the person who currently occupies the Oval Office. Even if that person happens to be totally deranged.
The UK government has designated “Palestine Action” as a terrorist entity. That has lead to the British Police threatening people with arrest under the terrorism act for saying things like “Stop the genocide” or “Freedom for Palestine” and for displaying a Palestinian flag.
So the lunacy is widespread throughout the Five Eyes alliance.
When the New Zealand government starts proscribing domestic groups for the expression of political opinion then we will know that fascism is well and truly upon us. We may choose not to act now, but then we will be left with no choice.
“The Biden administration declared the Proud Boys to be terrorists because they supported Donald Trump”
Well, it seems to me a well-considered designation as they participated in planning and execution of a revolt on Jan 6 2021, involving the organisation of munitions, firearms and logistics of a storming of the Capitol for the purpose of overthrowing a legitimate election result.
But you know, if you want to ignore or downplay that sort of behaviour, feel free, but do it honestly rather than selectively ignoring it.
No reasonable person could care less what happens to the American regime. All decent people are hoping for a civil war to develop there.
The Proud Boys are not a nice bunch of people, but that is not why they were designated as terrorists by the New Zealand government.
Do you think that the IDF, who are also not a nice bunch of people, would be designated as terrorists by the New Zealand government? If so you don’t understand how the designation process works. Do you imagine that someone in Wellington sat down and compiled an extensive dossier on the Proud Boys? Do you think someone in Wellington is currently building a dossier on every not-very-nice-bunch-of-people in all 195 nations in the world? No, that is not how it works. A dossier arrives on a desk in Wellington. It originates in the US. The New Zealand government then rubber stamps it. Done. The Proud Boys are terrorists. Donald Trump comes in. Done. The Proud Boys are no longer terrorists.
Now, I don’t buy Donald Trump’s claim that the election was stolen. Nor can I discount it. Neither can you. All over the world elections are being challenged and sometimes they are overturned by force. There is never any real evidence of fraud. There cannot be because the ballot is conducted in secret. If you want to save democracy and prevent the “overthrow of a legitimate election result” then think about whether we can continue to tolerate the secret ballot as an electoral system. Simply asserting that an election was legitimate is no longer sufficient. We need to be able to prove that it was legitimate. That necessitates a return to the open ballot.
The IDF should all be designated as war criminals by the New Zealand government. Every single current or reserve member of the IDF should be designated as a war criminal and prohibited from entering New Zealand.
My commandment to you is this:
Thou shalt have no other gods but Brian.
Or the Holy Trinity, Christ-opher, Brian and Wee Dave.
And not forgetting the “Wife of Brian” political party ….
I love discussion on TDB because even idiocy makes sense. Don’t you think?
People with no sense of humour have no fun in life. Try getting a giggle out of kiwiblog.
You have to be old to appreciate Wife of Brian but I’m old.
The W of B and the Holy Trinity are not people who actually understand humour. They are to be pitied.
Going through life always being right must be bloody hard work.
It’s much easier never being wrong.
“Going through life always being right must be bloody hard work.”
That counts Im right and Bob the first out!
All this trashing of the Proud Boys. I haven’t seen a single video of the club doing what they are accursed of being. All the governments have are the fabrications reprinted by left leaning media. Not one of them can post an actual event to back there story. J 6 was a government op to get Trump. 41000 hours of video from the capital told a very different story than the media presented. Are 80 yr old grandmas terrorists because they went inside.