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  1. “ After refusing to rule Winston out, then ruling Winston in, National begged the country not to vote for Winston.”

    For a country with an MMP consensus-based, coalition-dependent, electoral system, it’s quite dispiriting how inept New Zealand’s politicians are.

    They’re simply bad at politics.

  2. The planning for a social democratic Third Party run in 2026 should start right now.

    1. Maybe TOP plus the tax-reform minded Labour folk (peeling off thanks to all those “captain’s calls”), plus the section of the Greens that’s less hooked-into culture wars & more economically/wealth distribution minded?

      1. Exactly and I agree 100%.
        it is the reason I gave up on Labour 9 years ago and Joined the Greens in 2019.
        Labour are a lost cause for progressive left economic change.

  3. Thanks for keeping us informed and entertained over the last couple of months @ MB. I’ll leave the last word with you. It’s how it should be. But cant help myself in saying the last word will be with voters. Don’t beat yourself. Labour and the Greens will hold their own in the electorates and attract a good proportion of the party vote, sufficient to make it a close race. On the polling not enough? Oh well, well see just how accurate the more recent polls are at predicting the result.

  4. That saddest part is National are so f’ing useless that Labour start looking the less worse option in terms of major parties. How is that possible! At least under labour you get a semblance of CGT on property, and all this shit about landlords reducing rent if they get tax relief is something not even Nicola Willis believes. It’s stupid treating interest the way they are because they are gutless on speculation but here we are. Yes Labours GST policy is stupid.

    Nationals tax cuts are a farce and ACTS tax cuts come with such a cost we will pay big time. I’d like to see the state sector given a good rark up but Seymour is only really doing it to let any industry run wild. It’s not about good management. The Treaty stance and the gun stuff is just f’ing stupid.

    The Māori have some policies like, the prison one, that are nuts and although I have time for Shaw, Swarbrick, and Genter, the fact that Davidson is co leader of the Greens just leaves me cold.

    TOP just feels like you are almost not voting and the rest are just idiots.

  5. Labour have to win this because National only support the 1%. They want kids who cannot go to the bank of mum and dad to leave NZ. They will rent forever. They give them no other option.

  6. A lot of people are going to be systematically screwed over by a National government. I hope a miracle happens tomorrow, even know I know there is no such thing.

  7. Great stuff Bomber. The debates were an awesome eye opener to the depth of talent from all parts of the country and political spectrum. See you on the other side.

  8. If National win, I will probably step back from commenting for a few months, at least until the dust settles.

    Catch you all whenever I guess….

  9. “Jacinda protected NZ from a mass death event and saved 20000 lives.” Martyn Bradbury.
    But you wouldn’t know that from this election.
    Labour didn’t fight this election on Jacinda Ardern’s record. It was never mentioned.
    Labour are so committed to neoliberalism that they were too ashamed to campaign on the fact that Jacinda Ardern was prepared to put a spoke in the wheel of capitalist profit taking with the shutdowns to save lives.
    The old Labour are still committed to the fantasy of white colonial supremacy that they were too ashamed to campaign on the fact that after the Christchurch massacre Jacinda Ardern said, “they are us” of the Moslem community.
    On taking the premiership Chris Hipkins carried out what was called in the media a ‘bonfire’ of Jacinda Ardern’s policies, and her achievements were scrubbed from the Labour Party’s collective memory, especially her vision for this country, as a leader in climate justice.
    Jacinda Ardern wasn’t perfect by any means, no great disruptive leaders ever are. But Jacinda Ardern would never have made a “Captain’s Call” to cancel the wealth tax. That I am absolutely sure of. Even if she had been under political pressure from the wealthy big business lobbyists. Even if the conservative permanent heads were advising her to, Jacinda Ardern would not have buckled to the rich. Not least because Ardern had publicly committed herself to a personal mantra of “kindness” which such a captain’s call would have completely negated.

    The Labour government didn’t lose this election because of Jacinda Ardern’s legacy but because of their refusal to defend it.

    1. Good points Pat O’D. It seems that with everyone living longer, and perhaps like Robert Mugabe, supposedly taking monkey glands, the uglies never die they just eventually dry up or bloat and destroy themselves. But not having had a new thought or questioned themselves since they were 55 and succeeded in some way, they carry on in their self-satisfaction as a shining example of how good their chosen policies are. We need different ways for choosing our wise ones and limiting their time of management, and later influence. That would be a civil war in itself.

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