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  1. No, the solution IS NOT online voting, the solution is that we stop being such cheap pricks and run it ourselves again, like the national elections. Totally agree, although still those that want to vote will vote, Those that can’t be be arsed won’t.

  2. Speaking Auckland here;

    As I have said, Auckland Transport was a major reason for Wayne Brown winning. Leo knew it all too well. AT has fucked more than enough people off with their despot style and getting down with the cool professional management bike kids shit to cause this. Look at Aucklands CBD, a pig sty of closed streets and bus layup bays, judder bars and crawling speed limits. That’s AT! That was the future under anyone but Brown or Molloy!

    I suspect if Efeso had a profile, because apart from the deepest beltway, no one knew him, that Jacinda and Labour’s brand weren’t in such terminal decline, and he promised to genuinely clamp down on AT’s excesses, with his free fares gig, he may have won. He came a respectable second. And Brown was hardly attractive but he looked like he had the fire in his belly to change things!

    I do not think Collins loss was personal. He should not pack in politics either. It just the other option looked like a credible alternative to business as usual. And having said that, the resignation of the head of AT, some overpaid person I’d never heard of, is proof of that!

  3. Online voting works well in the USA – but I fear something was amiss in the whole voting process. It may need some serious tweaking. Auckland is the most diverse city in NZ – what the heck were you people thinking Electing an old – he is almost 80 – misogynistic, white racist? I can’t believe good friends and people actually related to me by blood, voted for this person. My love affair with the city in which I was born and raised, to which I gave so much (did I teach my students nothing?) which I missed so much, is over!!!

    1. I was surprised that I never received my voting papers, as my nice elderly landlord had received his two weeks prior. I stopped being surprised when on Friday I saw a line of people that went out the door of the Electoral office in Federal street.

      I did wonder if the company that was running the election, decided to cut costs by not sending out ballots by saving money on postage, cause you know, profits before public service…

      1. I popped my votes into a bin at the local Countdown supermarket. the supermarket owners had placed a notice on top of the bin saying “this bin is not for rubbish”, which I thought was rather amusing.

  4. I did not know the voting system was run by profit oriented business. Too much.

    And as if to sum up the malaise that Labour are in, it has finally dawned on our PM that the voting system in Auckland, at least, needs a review and fixing. Jee zuz! You reckon?

    It’s been bad for decades, it’s dire now. Using post for voting, in the hit and miss world of NZ Post delivery? WTF! Its as if the organiser’s wanted as few votes as possible with as many hurdles in the way to casting them.

    Why not have polling booths plus postal voting plus ballot boxes everywhere?

    How did our PM not know how bad this was? Does she not take notice of anything unless her pollsters tell her to? Don’t we have a minister in charge of elections? It’s why Labour are where they are at today, they can’t think for themselves!

  5. First comment on this site.
    Eagle confirmed on RNZ that his 4th placing was because voters in Wellington voted along party lines.
    This is the first time I have ever agreed with a Labour MP.
    Ardern’s public support of both Eagle and Collins in Auckland was the kiss of death.
    Great !
    Providing Ardern is still leading here hapless bunch of sycophants next year Labour will be lucky to end up with 20 MP’s in the House.
    Both National and ACT should have compulsory daily prayer sessions praying that Ardern retains her leadership next year.
    Both Ardern and her socialist party are gone for all money.

      1. Blazer, just got back from a very long brunch celebrating the demise of the Commie / Socialists.
        Thank you for asking.
        The caregivers ( plural ) are doing their job with alacrity.
        May it continue at pace !

    1. Fuck me, people here are utterly ignroant of basic facts.
      I wish Jacionda was socialist, but she’s about as fucking centrist as you can be, a pure liberal.
      No support for unions.
      Ignored the findings of the government’s own inquiry into taxation, refusing to create any welath tax, basically the only OECD country without one (even the anti-tax U.S has both capital gains and inheritance tax), keeping arguably the most regressive tax system of the west aligning with upper-class/corporate interests agaisnt those of the working and lower middle class.
      No Rent to own housing policy
      Hand outs to corps during covid rather than citizens.
      I coudl go on and on.

      If you think this is communism, you probably think Mussolini’s policies are too centrist.

  6. There will be a bonfire of council services around the country now. Parks sold, libraries closed, rents put up for pensioner housing.

    Ironically, none of these so called ‘keep rates’ down types have ever proposed removing penalties or interest on late payment of rates.

    1. @Millsy
      Don’t forget all the tasty infrastructure network service contracts that will come up for their cronies; neolibs hate running things and boomers like money…

    2. Keep rates down requires payment of rates so why would anyone want to incentivise non payment?

  7. No one owns the water apparently but the residents here in Taranaki are being forced to pay for water through introduction of water meters, but water bottlers can have as much water as they want. So if we change the definition of residents to water bottlers then we can have as much water as we want, even make a profit on it? I’m not in your immediate family Nanaia but please help me here.

  8. So when will these so called Youth-quakes of young, savvy, politically aware start to come into play and change the dynamic? I think it must be 20 years since I first heard the term and we are still waiting.

  9. Bourgeois or better known as N.I.M.B.Y. GOT THEIR local electorate friend to care in councils for them. 40% , what that in regard to our national elect, monster difference come the day of a proper value turn out, mind we have a year of these N.I.M.B.Y. MAYORS TO SHOW THEIR GRIT.

  10. All the rest right, wetting themselves, got this election in our hands, really, how shallow they need their support base to ad sugar to their latte, as their afford of the best coffee shops, in their chosen districts, never, coffee, in those places, do thy have proper coffee shops in their place.

  11. In all your doom and gloom. The Māori Party walked into many local bodies for the first time.

    Look for a strong left wing voice on council for the first time in 40 years. By that I mean normal voices expressing the reality of working people in this country.

    That’s my future whats yours?

  12. Supposedly three waters is so important, yet f*ck all people turned out to say they cared one way or the other. It probably is unpopular ( and let’s pretend its the democracy piece) but I think some people are drawing all sorts of conclusions on a questionable sample size. Wayne Brown is hardly extreme right. He says inappropriate things because he’s 400 years old, not because he is one way or another.

    1. Yes, you do have a point wheel; the man is a fossil. Where you are wrong is the man’s value set; he is one of those amoral soulless ducks (ducks???? I meant fucks) who follows the neolib mantra. Watch for the few remaining core council services to be sold off for profit to (usually Australian) multinationals in the name of “sorting it out”.
      I’m sure it will be fine though because he “isn’t really that right wing”….

      1. Leftorium ” follows the neolib mantra” could make him Labour could it not. I am not trying to defend Brown I am just saying we are drawing a whole lot of conclusions on bugger all people turning up. Brown saying ‘finish projects’ would resonate with a number of people from either end of the political spectrum. The “City of Road Cones” could lead people to think ‘give him a go’. If Collins had won some might be saying a homophobic conservative is a sign of regression as well.

  13. Landed gentry boomers my foot! I’m a Michael Joseph Savage “when are they gonna do something for the workers?” genuine Labour voter, who will never vote for this lot who have NO RIGHT to claim to be a LABOUR party.

  14. The landed gentry vote because the landed gentry pay. Ratepayers have greater skin in the game.

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