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  1. Excellent article Frank. It is really upsetting to think this situation helped John Key to sell his home for a very bloated price.

    Nick Smith has been a dreadful Minister in every way. He should stand
    down.

    Personally I think buying the land back would be ideal. Price paid plus inflation would be fair.

    The government providing cheap loans for a fifth of a development would assist builders/developers as well.

    Getting a loan could be on a needs list by ballot until we dent the numbers.

    Plans pre approved by council could give a choice of 5 to 10 types of basic unit, townhouse, to speed consents.

    These could be modern prefab with insulation and solar panels.

    1. Indeed, Patricia.

      And as you pointed out, Nick Smith was hopeless at his portfolio. The new Coalition government will have it’s work cut out for them.

  2. We are still and are likely to remain, a basically capitalist society. Albeit capitalism needs reigning in. But it is forlorn to appeal to the capitalist’s sense of social equity to refrain from a safe and profitable investment opportunity , and thus pass the opportunity on to the next capitalist waiting in line to exploit it. The capitalist might well have a social conscience, but understand , like Garath Morgan does, that the empty houses he is sitting on are a major part of the problem he is campaigning to remedy, but under the existing structure it will happen whether he takes advantage or not. Only government and market fluctuations can change the nature of the most advantageous investment.
    Twyford’s threat to use the public works act presumably won’t materially disenfranchise the land bankers. The act doesn’t confiscate land without reasonable market level compensation.
    Some of the compensation money will presumably recycle to buy up the available houses from the balloted new owners. And leave them empty since it is a nuisance and a potential liability to have tenants in them and the price is still going up. There will be off the record deals to get around the 6 years clawback of CG, as well as rent to buy tenants needing to capitalise the equity they have accumulated in the house.
    The new government needs to make most of their housing development rental only if they are to address the problem of homelessness. People don’t need to own the house they live in to be better off than living in a car. And the government can then ensure that the initiative continues to serve the purpose it purports to address. The rent to buy is targeting near the top end of the housing issue not the bottom end where the real problem lies. But at least it won’t upset the market denizens and doubtless fits better within the fiscal responsibility rules.
    What is Twyford doing about these empty speculator’s houses that we aren’t allowed to know the number of. Surely this is the first thing to address. It has to be addressed to prevent almost all new housing finishing up in the same situation. I’m sure a new house is more attractive to a “house banker” than a grubby old one that the last tenants might have smoked meth in.
    D J S

  3. And why now has the MSM come out in support of Labour policies.

    This from Heather DPA in this mornings herald…

    “Foreign buyers should have been banned years ago. Ignore the data that suggests it wasn’t a problem. It was.

    The data goes nowhere near capturing what was really happening in the housing market, especially Auckland’s, where some foreign buyers were snapping up houses sight unseen.

    The fact is, if we put this country on sale to the world, our citizens will end up being outbid by foreigners every time because we don’t have their kind of cash.”

  4. Another issue that hasn’t been widely reported is “buying off the plans”. Many apartment developments pre-sell based on the plans with the buyers paying a deposit upfront and the balance on completion. These contracts usually have clauses that allow the developer to:

    1. Modify the design and charge the buyer any increased amount to build. If they can’t pay the increase then they have their deposit returned with similar conditions to #2 below.
    2. Cancel the development altogether and simply return the deposit, certainly without any interest and often with “administration” charges deducted.

    Because the land value has been going up so much in recent years the moment the developer sells they apartment they are not getting the upside, the buyer is, so they often don’t want the project to proceed. Or they are just testing the market and raise some cash which they might use for other short term activity before returning it, keeping any interest if they reinvested it, and deducting those admin charges.

    Disgraceful unregulated behaviour.

  5. Sorry Frank, but your dreams of the govt seizing land through the Public Works Act will come with a very large price tag. Any attempt to take private property without adequate compensation is doomed to failure. Building houses would not be seen under the act as a legitimate use. The government would find itself being tied up in court by patient land bankers.

    1. Building houses would not be seen under the act as a legitimate use.

      Says who, Michael?

      According to Land Information New Zealand, the following is covered by the Public Works Act:

      Public Works Act acquisition process

      The Public Works Act provides the Crown with the statutory authority to acquire land for a public work. The Crown has the power to acquire or take land for a wide variety of purposes and may negotiate for the land in the same way as a private purchaser. While the Crown’s powers are wide, it can only acquire land, whether by negotiation or compulsorily, in accordance with the Act.

      […]

      Where voluntary agreement cannot be reached on the purchase of land for a public work, the Public Works Act provides for compulsory acquisition by the Crown through the Minister of Lands. This power will be exercised only after an acquiring authority (through an accredited supplier) has made all reasonable endeavours to negotiate in good faith the sale and purchase of your land, without reaching an agreement.

      If the Crown intends to take your land and you object, you have the right to have your objection heard by the Environment Court. However, your right to object relates only to the taking of the land, not to the amount of compensation payable.

      If you and the Crown cannot agree on the amount of compensation to be paid, the Act enables you to give notice to the Crown requesting that the issue of compensation be determined by the Land Valuation Tribunal.

      Ref: https://www.linz.govt.nz/crown-property/acquisition-and-disposal-land/land-involved-public-works/landowners-rights-when-crown

      .

      The government would find itself being tied up in court by patient land bankers

      Easily solved.

      Parliament is sovereign and the highest Court in the land. I’ll leave the rest to you.

      But I can tell you for free that in any battle between speculating land bankers and the Crown, I know who I’d be betting on.

      1. Fair argument, but what about using Crown land for KiwiBuild, and then selling homes, I presume with the land under it, to private first home buyers (who can later on sell it), seems like asset sales by stealth.

        1. “seems like asset sales by stealth”

          That’s a far stretch, Marc. What else do you suggest Labour build houses on? Empty air.

          Come on, let’s not find silly “hurdles” to put in front what remains a serious housing crisis. If people are going to come up with “what ifs” and artificial barriers, then that’s a recipe to do nothing.

          Doing nothing is not an option.

          Oh, and I’m guessing people who criticise the Labour coalition do so from the privilege of living in their own warm, dry homes??

  6. … ” Use it or lose it, land bankers. The party is over.

    Minister Twyford – let’s do this ” …

    Love it.

    Phil Twyford , – top bloke.

  7. Righties LOVE this discourse that it is scarcity of land that is the housing problem. Read any righty from the US and they will come out with this one. Unfortunately the left has gone with it and now seemingly supporting relaxed zoning standards, urban sprawl, quick consenting, and seizure of private land. None of which seems particularly democratic.

    It’s a croc. RMA for example, 99% of consents go through, already. You can propose any lying polluting developing at the detriment of the community and you will get it through the RMA. Its a rubber stamping exercise for business to railroad through developments and non fit for purpose consents.

    Relaxed zoning. Remember the SHA – only a few houses ever built – it’s not the land that’s the issue it’s building the fuckers and all the charges from COO’s for a start and why build affordable housing when the money is for expensive housing to those that have money. And that is not generally Kiwis on local wages.

    In the old days, family homes of 3 bedrooms, 1 bathroom circa 100m2 and decent garden were the norm, now it’s 4 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms and double garage at 200m2. Houses have doubled in size that’s the issue.

    Post war, veterans did a lot of the building of state houses, no 8 wire get in and do it mentality, nowadays it’s dozens of firms billing each other with more complexity, everyone expecting a healthy profit and the cost and time frames reflects that. Gone are the days of a builder just building, now everyone is a specialist that only knows one skill and supervises unskilled labour ‘helping; and the flow has gone as has the quality.

    The building boom in Auckland consists of knocking down formally affordable houses like state houses and building larger less affordable houses and the lefties have not really stopped to think about it. At the same time, housing has doubled in price, go figure as the size of the house doubles.

    There’s plenty of land about nobody mentions the mistakes like John Banks selling social housing years ago, the Natz have sold the state houses and now Kiwi tax payers pay $1000 per week for the former occupants to live in hotels.

    70,000 new migrants per year, plus 180,000 work permits issued, 0% tax havens, no taxes on offshore developers and non residents, and surprise surprise a housing crisis has developed as there is a shortage. It’s deliberate and it works. The lefties run about supporting the righties discourses and the public gets angry.

    Auckland council ratepayers are funding Westfield developers to build malls but can’t afford to mow the berms or run libraries.. WTF??

    It’s a crazy world. Watch the left discourse because the righties are winning this war as the lefties are unwittingly helping their agenda by supporting their ideas.

  8. How many different examples do we need to see of people making money by doing *nothing*, even preventing others doing something useful like building houses, before we start taxing capital gains, at least on real estate?

    1. Indeed, Danyl. I’ve said before that a capital gains tax on property sales should be at the business rate of 28% (not at the gst rate of 15%).

      The rationale is simple; buying and selling property is a business. Ergo it should be treated no differently to any other taxable business activity in this country.

      The Right should welcome this. After all, they’re the ones that promote a “level playing field” in free market economics.

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