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  1. Its nice to see broader views on this conflict, by concentrating on the Ukraine we miss that this war is really about rentier finance capitalism versus the acrual producers of commodities and manufacturers. In a nutshell the West in particular are massively net importers of energy and food, and have outsourced industrial production to the East, in particular China. The real issue of this war is who ends up with the profits, East (Russia, China, India, South America) or West (Anglo America).

    Kissinger is a follower of Makkinder who a century ago warned of the danger to the Western imperialism of an integrated Eurasia. I suspect that the economic union of Eurasia is close, India and the Middle East are moving that way. At stake in the Ukraine war (which will end in the dismemberment of Ukraine) is Turkey and Germany being reorientated towards Eurasia. That is the end game for US financial empire.

  2. Beautifully crafted Chris – and let’s hope your summation is correct. Still, as Dr. Strangelove appears more and more like the real thing, than a parody of it, it would be hideously ironic if we were to be saved from this looming nuclear nightmare by someone with so much blood on his hands.

  3. I think Kissinger is spot on. The US will have to prevail upon Ukraine to be realistic about the outcome. I note the NYT was of the same view.

    The status quo ante would be quite a success for Ukraine. They will be lucky if they can achieve that much. More likely is that Ukraine will have to cede more territory in the Donbas. The battles of the last two weeks point in that direction. Then there is the question of the “land bridge” between Crimea and Donbas. Expect major battles in the summer over that. These battles will be titanic. Kursk sized! Kissinger can see the risk of that getting out of hand, and more and more extreme weapons and tactics being used. So some tough decisions ahead for both Russia and Ukraine if they want to avoid that.

    A couple of points.The US is not energy poor, in fact the US is the worlds largest oil producer, mostly for internal consumption. However, Europe is energy poor and is obviously a major importer of Middle East oil.

    To what extent will the Middle East turn to China, India and Russia, and do all three nations share common objectives? India, probably not. For India, China is more of a competitor than collaborator. Over time India will become the second major exporter of industrial and manufactured goods. China will not be the prime market, in fact they will be the prime competitor. The West will be the main market. Russia, with 140 million people, is dwarfed by the rest of Europe and North America as a market. Expect India to continue to slowly veer more toward the West, though it will be cautious about how far it will go.

    I would agree that the Middle East will progressively turn away from the West. Their main markets will become Asia, including China, Japan and India. That will also influence their view of the world geopolitics.

    1. How lucrative will the European market be if they end up being impoverished by having to import much more expensive energy, thus eroding its manufacturing and wealth creating base

    2. There won’t be any titanic battles. The tyrant Zelensky doesn’t care how many Ukrainian gentiles he gets killed, but there is a limit. The Ukrainian people will overthrow him.

  4. A good post Chris. Thanks!

    There are a lot of interrelated moving parts to this conflict. However, one gets the sense that neither side now has the capacity to sustain the previous intensity of battle: so talking peace while they’re manoeuvring for the next phase would be good.
    Disparate issues:
    1. Biden started this by driving down US oil production. The resulting rise in the price gifted Putin a billion dollars a day. Quite a war chest!
    2. It suits the hawks in DC to let this drag on and weaken Russia. It’s a gift for them, and their buddies get to sell lots of weapons.
    3. This is a quagmire of Biden’s making so the Republicans will be only too happy to let the Democrats wallow in it leading up to the midterms. Everything in DC is about internal politics; even foreign affairs!
    4. Summer is here, and oil demand will fall.
    5.The Europeans deserve everything they get. It’s the consequence of voting for fools. Trump warned them!

    My guess: This will drag on until September. The GOP then takes control of one or both houses and releases all those stalled drilling permits. The oil price then softens and negotiations commence.

  5. They should negotiate to end the war with Russia and not escalate it.

    Many problems are facing the world, especially climate change and they should be working together to actually go post oil and into saving the planet.

    For example saving wild places which many are being destroyed. They should be preserved as well as the ocean and skies. The world should pay for these places to be preserved for everyone not just the country they are in.

    “The Russian Federation contains one sixth of the world’s land mass and around half of the country’s territory is what could be considered continuous wilderness, with large expanses of boreal forests providing relatively untouched habitat for an extremely wide diversity of species. The temperate rainforests are located at the intersection of the Pacific tectonic plate and the Eurasian continent’s plate in far southeastern Russia, forming an area with a unique set of characteristics seen no where else in the world.[2] During the last glacial maximum, the area was not glaciated, allowing for the development of a complex ecosystem containing species with origins in Siberia’s boreal forest and Manchuria’s subtropical forests.[2] Historically these forests ranged from the southeastern Pacific coast of Russia, North Korea, and into northern China, however large amounts of human development (in China especially) has limited the forest to its current range in the Russian Far East.[2] In 2001, UNESCO recognized a 1.5 million hectare area of forest in the central part of the Sikhote-Alin mountains as a World Heritage Site in Russia, citing the area as one of the most unique and valuable areas of intact forest in the world [3]”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperate_rainforests_of_the_Russian_Far_East

    List of uninhabited regions
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_uninhabited_regions

    We are destroying rainforests so quickly they may be gone in 100 years
    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2017/jan/23/destroying-rainforests-quickly-gone-100-years-deforestation

  6. Mein Fuhrer! I can walk!

    Let’s hope this ghastly ghost gets back into his wheelchair…

    The Ukrainians have no intention of allowing Crimea to belong to the Russians, let alone the Donbas or Luhansk. And it seems very unlikely that the Moscow Politburo will settle for that. What about Moldova and Serbia and especially those rascally Baltics?

    You’d be better off double checking your ICBM targetting protocols…

  7. “Nato have so far restricted themselves to supplying the Ukrainians with defensive military equipment,…”

    ” defensive “? Guns are guns, missiles are missiles, military equipment is military equipment and can used both defensively or offensively.
    The reality is:

    “Nato have so far restricted themselves to supplying the Ukrainians with military equipment,…”

  8. If the US invaded Venezuela to gain energy security.

    OPEC would collapse. The cost of energy would plummet and inflation defanged.

    Unlikely, yes but not impossible.

    1. I’m sure the US Deep State has thought of that. There are complications with oil however, to do with things such as the type of crude. For example the US production is mainly fracked and features very little heavy distillates that you need for diesel. they get the majority of this from Russia…see the problem.

  9. Listening to Kissinger on anything is like listening to Hitler on anything. Nothing he says aids any argument (right or wrong) you make because he simply cannot be trusted. Kissinger is pure evil and his “wisdom” has led to millions of deaths (e.g. Vietnam). Fortunately he’s super old and will die ASAP, and (hopefully) has zero influence in geopolitics so can be ignored completely.

    1. The classic ultra-left response. Moral judgements trump facts every time. Sometimes evil people do good things without intending to. If Kissinger’s analysis leads to peace, then I don’t care two hoots that the ideas came from him. All I care about is that the fighting and dying ends, and that the re-building of Ukraine begins.

  10. Kissinger is an augery, a raven, while ruthless and amoral.

    That was cogent analysis, Mr. Totter
    I sought this blog, and am well rewarded.
    Regards, Michael Dee, Yank.

  11. This reactionary poison toad deserves burial next to Pinochet (if the dictator’s unmarked grave can be located) after a suitable war crim trial!

    He might make some sort of “no nukes” argument, but Kissinger only stands for US Imperialism and Capital. Nuclear war tends to cut off the cash flow.

  12. Time to give peace a chance – before somebody does something rash.
    Best line since I don’t know when. Very cool, very right in a lefty sort of way.

    TM Sounds as if he needs some heart surgery. Who’s Kissinger now – to come up with that idea?

    Don’t we need to do something about Russia, Chris? How come now we are grown up 21st century adults with some assuming the role of gods; how come we can’t work something out all together. Just for the next five years if that isn’t too much of a stretch for politicians and oligarchs’ mind-elastic. With a view to getting along, keeping going with communication and mediation lines open, and doing something meaningful about climate change. Or we could have another bloody world war. That sharpens up the mind considerably, when there are hardly any options to waffle on about.

    1. You can wax eloquent Warbler-but remember the banality of evil-even torturers, authoritarians, and heartless warmongers like Henry end up going home for dinner with the fam. and no doubt a good nights sleep.

      Me, I remember the Santiago Stadium and Victor Jara. I worked with the Chilean exile community in NZ in late 70s.

  13. Agreed Gagarin the messenger is poisonous but the message is more or less sound. If Ukraine sues for peace now then they may be able to retake some of the Donbas later. Crimea is lost however. I cannot understand the loony left in blaming the US for the war. We of Russian extraction know better than that. Putin hates the idea of a democratic Ukraine on his doorstep. Biden knows a lot about Ukraine and I think the idea would be to progress the war until Putin is removed by illness or coup d’état.You Putin supporters in New Zealand should be ashamed of yourselves. Support Navalny instead. Zelensky and Navalny would work together.

    1. “Sue for peace” then fight later?! Canterbury/NZ doesn’t gain much from your presence.

      Слава России!

      1. Боже мой!
        Another bloody Putin supporter. As I said you should be ashamed of yourself.
        For the record my father was born in Russia and you have little idea about the truth about Russia that the siloviki are running a kleptocratic criminal state that has no democratic freedoms. Ukraine isn’t perfect but it’s a hell of a lot better than that!

        1. You are a fuckwit Cantabrian. Total idiot.
          You don’t know the facts, blinded by your boomer status?
          Teach yourself to look for the truth instead of just parroting
          US propaganda – all lies. Nato can’t beat Russia on the ground,
          and they know it.

    1. It would look like the Killing Fields for Russian citizens of the eastern Ukraine. Its time apologists for the Ukraine got their heads around that. For them Putin is a far better option than neoNazi Azovs and Ukrainian right wing nationalists. Read their history, learn about their atrocities.
      Dont read that as an excuse for Putin, read it as an indictment on the West for allowing this evil to fester.

  14. I will first say, this war should have been avoided. It would have been a simple matter to determine borders in Ukraine by plebiscite. The borders of 2020 would have moved a little but no one would have died. Historic sanctions on Russia could have ended in return for compensation to Ukraine for lost territory and resources (effectively Russia paying off a share of the Ukraine national debt). From that could have come a EU – Ukraine and Russia FTA.

    Without that Putin had two choices – one was to make such a wish known to the EU and say he was open to such a future. And if he had waited long enough such diplomacy would have prevailed. Instead he chose war. It is up to him to climb down from that position. If he continues on the path of some nova Russia in the south and East of Ukraine by ethnic cleansing and annexation then tp cater to his will is classical appeasement of the strongman will – and such emboldens fascist tendency to use of violence in politics (given the GW future ahead of us not the right option).

    The West blaming itself for his choice of action and appeasing him for the sake of peace sets a dangerous precedent for collective security – it effectively becomes abandoned to enable regional hegemony.

  15. Looking at Mr Kissinger I think pity he isn’t British, they would have knighted him. He makes me think of Monty Python’s Mr Creosote, but cleaner. He is USA isn’t he, sometimes it’s hard to tell?

  16. What Kissinger said about Ukraine remaining neutral should apply all the way up to the Arctic circle: and would include Finland, whose recent application to join NATO defies common sense, and also the three Baltic states. I have argued this on previous comment (I’m not sure where) and it is flattering to see that Kissinger, by implication, agrees with me.

  17. May I recant on some aspects of my comments above?
    The time to negotiate is when Putin has been beaten and the Russian military is back behind their border.
    My reasoning is quite simply: You can’t do deals with tyrants! Because they will renege on them whenever it suits them. Just like Hitler did.
    There already IS a signed agreement between Russia and NATO maintaining Ukraine’s national integrity, and how has that worked out?

    1. “Just like Hitler did.”

      And Neville Chamberlain also, presumably. Did he not declare war on Germany.

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