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  1. The Dodd-Frank act in the US is supposed to make it unnecessary for govt bailout in the event of a repeat of the GFC 2008. The banks would seize deposits instead. There is an insurance fund to call on in the US to ease the situation for depositors that does not exist in NZ. So but buy bank savings next time.
    But if the banks were allowed to collapse next time (deposits would disappear anyway) it would be the opportunity to clean up the whole mess. They could sit their doors, swallow our savings, and disappear for good. Then the reserve bank could re-hire the staff and nationalise them all, restoring the deposits with QE or fiat money from the reserve bank. But this fiat money should all be given individual identities like paper money notes have. Even if for the sake of the numbers needed they were numbered in groups of a thousand. They should be electronically identifiable as they move through the economy and not extinguished as they are now as a bank loan is repaid. That would kill the “money
    multiplier” (see Wikipedia), and from then on we could have a sovereign currency under the control of the state to serve the public.
    D J S

    1. I am inclined to think that monies placed on demand deposit should be deemed the property of the depositor (banks at present regard these monies as their own property but offset by a debt to the depositor) and therefore not subject to lending. This would prevent the banks creating money by lending these deposits to others. The government could then create money by fiat and spend it into the economy. This governmet created money would then circulate as real money rather than “debt” money. The money supply could be controlled through taxation.

      1. National Government changed the rules I believe, Australians are covered though by the Australian Government ?

  2. I’m afraid you are absolutely right, John.

    Only when the NZ government takes control of the money system will anything change for the better. And the government is too weak and too cowardly to tackle the banks. So it’s business-as-usual until it all falls over.

  3. Quoting Why we cannot afford the rich:

    But the problem is not just negligent or reckless individuals, or cocaine-fuelled traders, ever seeking to rout competitors and clients, but the ‘criminogenic environment’ of the financial system.

    Yes, there is a problem with the very ‘culture’ of the financial system. It comes from the financial pressures and opportunities that make such behaviour probable. Deregulated, neoliberal finance actively encourages malpractice. In volatile, fiercely competitive financial markets, with constant pressure for short-term gains that deliver shareholder value, ruthlessness, including aggressive tax avoidance and/or evasion, is essential for success, at both corporate and individual level.

    Hormonal traders The financial sector is and has always been male dominated, macho and mean, but it is becoming more so. Since the crisis, a new drug of choice, after cocaine, has emerged among financial executives and traders wanting to be alpha males: testosterone. Several clinics that used to offer it as treatment for impotence are now providing it to traders wanting to stay aggressive, confident and decisive throughout their 12-hour working days.102 This of course makes them even more likely to take extreme risks and act irresponsibly and unethically.

    In the upper reaches of the financial sector, and particularly in investment banking, the system attracts the ethically challenged and moulds individuals to be still more selfish and myopic. The wider social costs of their private actions simply don’t come into the equation. This is why media handwringing about ethics rather than the system itself must have many members of the financial sector privately rolling their eyes – or smirking.

    Regulate?

    Get rid of it by having a state bank that provides loans with 0%. Make the rent seeking of the banking/financial sector impossible and all without even banning it.

    1. Now, just think – if I’d had access to that in the edit time frame instead of it disappearing into the ether I could have edited it to be readable.

      It’s this crappy interface that really puts me off commenting here.

      1. It’s hard to be an investment banker. Just ask the Dutch ex-banker who blew the whistle on all the rituals these money greedy individuals have to endure. Take a short cut and just ask our own knighted wanker (I’ll not bother to type that again).

  4. a quote form RT commentator on FB
    Libby Arndt
    1 week ago
    Neoliberalism is global capitalism and greed on steroids and obsessive focus on the (especially identity politics). It is not the left. The Republican Party of Trump has abandoned the morals and codes of behavior the traditional right represented, including the obligation to seek the public good. The old right and left sought to protect the intrinsic self-worth and value of human beings, if in different ways. Both parties have thrown all this overboard for naked profit and power, at home and abroad, disguising the nullity of our politics with increased mutuality hostility and omission of truth.

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