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  1. the 3R’s that’s a good way to put it . also a chance for outlandish employers to get their sh*t together and make sure they have good sustainable working conditions for incoming new and old employees .

    and why not aim for a sustainable population , of say .. where it is now for example .. that would mean close to enough housing in NZ for everyone .. and less need for ‘big infrastructure projects or to strip the planet bare of resources , consequently saving billions of $$$

  2. We always had enough beds to house the homeless!

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/04/coronavirus-homeless-given-motel-rooms-during-covid-19-lockdown.html?fbclid=IwAR1zJq9yaXrutpm2xC3UtL7JEK2SG1ZTS52Dzwity26YWXnM4CUWOIYTZ1E

    This is a good initiative and hopefully ends homelessness in NZ.

    However putting up the homeless in hotels, is the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff though.

    To avoid this there needs to be serious thought about having so many poor outcomes for many in NZ with drugs/alcohol/cigarettes/mental health issues/cognitive issues/poverty for more and more many people going forward….

    Aka avoiding people getting to the bottom in the first place.

    This should be a wakeup call.

    Teenager is tortured to death and fails to escape with police that come to her door. She is so badly abused she fails to even have a flight mentality to escape her torturers with two chances to leave them! It’s chance, police even found her body. WTF!

    Auckland teen was kidnapped and tortured, court hears
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/398171/auckland-teen-was-kidnapped-and-tortured-court-hears

    Another sad story of another teenager in care that in stead of being protected and rehabilitated ends up in prison for a decade over a fake rape allegation from another ‘troubled’ youth.
    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/false-rape-claim-teen-serves-10-years

    AKA Better care for NZ children and youth is a must. Under neoliberalism we don’t seem to care about children, just the businesses and bogus charities to ‘donate’ to help children and another marketing campaign.

    Funny enough kids need protection against abuse and a future to turn to, rather than a charity/business sponsored raincoat! But neoliberalism doesn’t rate social care, but the growth markets of money to be made from expanding poverty!

    People also need to have worthwhile and fair work to do. The current competitive and insecure gig economy, low wages that are topped up by benefits, is not a viable future to churn out well balanced citizens or retain a welfare state going forward.

    Funny enough the nurse who helped save Boris left NZ a decade ago.

    A familiar theme for many in NZ who are good at their jobs and choose to leave rather than irk out a living in NZ that prefers moneylaunders, lower waged workers and billionaires, to the price of retaining decent nurses and other competent workers and experts in NZ.

    1. Many young Kiwis get lured to do their “big OE” and get socially involved while overseas. Some get married and some get involved with a social group, have a job and become settled. It costs to travel home and then accommodation and a job have to be secured. It can look too hard to move.

      1. @John W, High skilled Kiwis who should be getting high wages, used to come back to NZ, now they don’t.

        Instead we have been sold a pup from John n Bill, that having millions of low skilled, lowed waged migrants to permanent residents will replace them and bridge the gap.

        Judging by the multiple crisis and increased poverty, housing, jobseeker at 11%+, pollution, congestion, shortages everywhere of key staff in every area from bus drivers to doctors, it ain’t working out too well. You can replace a doctor with a nurse aid (big on our ‘essential skills’ ) with no qualifications and think you will get the same quality health system.

        As they say if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.

        The decent migrants with real skills, also leave NZ to work for real wages so brain drain can never be solved with migration.

        Aka only by increasing the high paid opportunities and good work conditions to retain a professional workforce in NZ for local people and high skilled migrants like Dr Alejandro Jimenez Restrepo, (aka highly skilled experienced migrants who will not put up with lowered professional standards and constantly being duped by their employer just like the professional Kiwis who also leave.) http://werewolf.co.nz/2014/12/public-health-the-silent-crisis/

        And with the amount of screw ups in NZ from everything to building a house or apartment that falls down and leaks, to now having the most expensive roads in the world being built in NZ, lowest ICU beds per population in western world, to constantly leaking IT data through stupidity and our phones not working whenever there is a crisis and everyone trys to ring at once, NZ is falling behind the world…. big time!

        NZ has become a Kafka type society where the ‘middle men’ control everything and micro manage and undermine the experts out of the workforce here.

  3. These are the policies this government should have been implementing anyway. Instead it had had to be dragged kicking and screaming to implement even modest reforms. The policies listed above would raise the incomes across a broad range of New Zealand and give local companies a chance to get to their feet without being undercut by cheap imports. In Denmark farmers felt it was wrong that locals paid international prices for produce and mandated some was reserved for local consumption at fair prices. Don’t expect that altruism here. Part of recent dairy market legislation proposed to disconnect the local market from international pricing was removed after intense lobbying. We can only hope this crisis bring an end to mass importation of low cost labour and allows the market to dictate salaries and wages by supply and demand as it should have been allowed to. Also meaning firms had to up skill and train staff if there was a shortage. Funny how anything that improves conditions for ordinary workers means we are happy to distort the market. I think we will try and maintain the status quo, even if it means more damage to our people and society. Labour need the support of the aspirational middle class, who even now continue to vote against their best interests.

  4. Many practical points that could be very helpful, given the complexity of climate adaptation in reality.

    Climate Change – through its genesis – is a global, terrestrial phenomena and most implications cannot be handled through narrow nation-state-like makeups and semantic borrowings made from warfare experience.

    Ecology is about human species re-discovering meaning and fitting in evolution. This has not much to do with generational attitudes but is (presently) founded in capitalist means of production and consumption.

    On the surface, nationalist simplicity may offer the illusion that previous (black-and-white) negatives can be brought back to shine by re-colouring the (glorious) past.

    Wrong turn, most probably.

    Instead, what we should seek for is sense, value, quality, opportunity of direct local-global interaction, and a flow of knowledge and wisdom that fosters individual and collective emancipation.

    The New Internationalist.
    https://newint.org/

  5. The market will hardly produce the changes suggested. More of the same is what the system is geared for and the big monied players will seek that.

    Changed need to be made by Govt but business NZ will resist anything that cuts across their perceived grip on the economy and wealth stream.

    Its Govt ( the people) who need to force the changes and make them work.

  6. A very good post indeed. It is amazing that this microscopic organism is providing the impetus for change that we as humans were incapable of… yet one could say it was bound to happen sooner than later…

    The whole combination of globalism and neo liberal free markets and the political structures built upon it are being dismantled,… before our very eyes, the fear is the shocking vulnerabilities it has exposed.

    It is a case of taking the medicine from which fate and folly have now dealt us.

    And part of that medicine is the reevaluation of the importance of people and community’s rather than growth for growths sake and placing profit before people. The people in third world country’s know only too well the small deprivation’s we think we are going under, – they’ve lived it for decades if not century’s being the exploited by more wealthier nations.

    And now the days of reckoning have come for globalism. Which is not to say that’s a bad thing save for the serious issues it brings to so many working people. But looking past this pandemic is a golden opportunity to demand change. To force politicians to listen up to whats needed . And less to those extremely wealthy lobbyist groups who have for so long bent their ears.

    And part of that is the redevelopment of national industry’s, of a serious attempt to developing our own internal trade, of buying Kiwi made and Kiwi grown again. Years ago , there was such an attempt at developing our own industry’s right smack bang in the middle of the neo liberal juggernaut, but nothing ever came of it.

    But now, the boots on the other foot and firmly on the throat of the neo liberal paradigm,… and this time they are forced to listen. Its not going to be just us, the little people who will notice the changes, – but also the old die hard free market capitalists who wont accept change and don’t want it.

    For once, TINA is now shown conclusively and emphatically for the straight out bald faced lie that it always was.

  7. Your comment manfred staab is idealistic and 20th century. Before we introduced our inter-dependence on international finance, labour resources and markets, it would already have been out of date as we are always lagging behind the sharper pencils in the world. We have made ourselves dependent on the whims and changes of overseas suppliers and now dance their tune.

    Our Ministry of Education is keen on teaching all through on-line learning and computers, so that puts hi-tech in and expense between us and knowledge gaining and our own simple mind-thinking processes that need to be learned at a basic level so they can be tuned up as we grow more mature and handle more complexity. Instead we are dependent on the computer, and often learn the theory of something by watching only, instead of combining with doing ourselves and understanding. That makes us half-educated and unequal when we meet with people overseas who are more immersed in tech than us. We are becoming doltish followers, wise village idiots; talking the talk but ….what and why?

    1. I enjoyed and agreed with your first paragraph but got a little lost with the rest,… I had some strong apple cider last night, you see….

      And currently, this woman’s beautiful voice sounds like its mocking me…

      Fiddler’s Dram – “Day Trip to Bangor (Didn’t We Have a Lovely Time)” – 1979
      https://youtu.be/wfwQi8L9h8M?t=4

      Good read, anyhows.

  8. ‘We can support a green, zero-carbon economy and build in more resilience’

    ‘Imagine a resurgence of New Zealand made clothes, shoes, cars and trains’

    These are mutually exclusive concepts, Christine. All manufacture in an industrial economy is dependent on the utilisation of fossil fuels for energy and the conversion of raw material into products.

    Only a food-and-wood-based economy (as per pre-industrial societies) is ‘zero-carbon’. I doubt many people will vote for life as lived by pre-European-contact Maori.

    Irrespective of what happens in NZ, globalised fossil-fuel-dependent arrangements are what keep most of the humans on this planet alive (planting, harvesting, processing and distribution in the industrial agricultural system).

    The McPherson Paradox hypothesis (reduction in industrial activity causes a surge in overheating) is about to be tested.

    https://guymcpherson.com/2020/04/will-covid-19-trigger-extinction-of-all-life-on-earth/

    1. The concept of a postindustrial society may not be too far away.

      Preindustrial societies did use wood as fuel, wind energy capture with sails and organic windmills. beast of burden such as horses, oxen ; worked some metals and many groups successfully lived as cooperatives.

      The future ahead can support cottage industry, make shoes and clothes, build houses from stone, earth and clay as well as thatch roofs. Windows as we know them will be harder but not necessary.
      Transporting food, fuel and materials will be much reduced with local supplies being what is used locally.

      The population will have to shrink drastically, preferably by way of birth control but life expectancy will fall.

      What you are looking at is a society with minimal energy use and so have a small consumption of Non Renewable Natural Resources (NRNRs).
      The world has a finite amount of NRNRs and we have used close to 75% of what was available in pre industrial times so everything will be a bit harder.
      Don’t think cities nor banks.

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