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  1. Oh God, our supreme luminary, please help us to regain our moral sense against this material, vengeful, competitive world to which we have our own inner powers of intellect to draw on to overcome. Help us to want and believe that we can solve our difficulties with thought. compromise, forgiveness, restorative justice, and trading nous, with fair treatment for the aggrieved and moral sense pervading with honest assistance to rebuild lives and a level of trust with previous ill-doers. Perfect trust can never be achieved, but we need to limit fear and avarice in ourselves and be alert to such in others. So please help us God, we have a hard row to hoe, in common human terms, and need to do better, individually, as separate groups, nations, and in our revered leaders of the military, political and particularly the religious.

    Prayer for a complicated world becoming too mechanised and artificial, beyond human. Real heart, not sentimental arousings is required in the 21st century. So when?… 2024?… 2025… 2026… 2027, 2028, 2029, 2030, 2031….?? Then do we fall burned, or twisted, like dry leaves on the ground, emaciated or bloated by a virus that wrenches at the body’s systems to failure; ending perhaps with a mechanical digger first making a huge pit, and then shovelling human forms into it. Like was done during the Nazi enslavement in WW2 and before down the centuries.

    Is this how we end with a sob and a sigh, a scream and an upwelling of disgust and horror.
    Are we so complacent, as we plan the redecorating of our sitting rooms, and how to let the garage after a coat of paint, for another $50 a week to a needy family, so kind of us etc etc… Is that how you, your family, your neighbours, club members, sports team … are?

    We can go back to the start of 2001 Space Odyssey then. All the other features of our lives are add-ons to the basic human who hasn’t really evolved much at all:
    Gorillas – space https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avjdKTqiVvQ
    At the end of 2001.. the computer system AI? HAL features largely – most commenters don’t understand the story line, taking the simplest views with no thought of subtleties.

    This from Reddit commenter makes interesting points.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/53tm6n/in_2001_a_space_odyssey_what_was_the_point_of_the/
    AudibleNod 8 yr. ago
    I’d also like to add that HAL, as a character, displays the most emotion of the Discovery crew. Now, hear me out. Bowman and Poole go through the plot largely free of emotion. They are polite, considerate but not emotive. Poole received a birthday video and barely reacts. Bowman loses a game of chess and merely acknowledges the loss. Even their discussion in the Pod is rather cool and collected. Conversely, HAL, when nearing deactivation (death), pleads with Bowman and expresses itself to have fear. The tone of its voice doesn’t change but the pleading is sincere. Throughout the whole scene Bowman is task driven, robot-like. I’ve flipflopped as to what this ‘means’ but I can say it’s deliberate.

    Are we near our ending on earth as a species, having learned nothing lasting from all the thinking and treatises put down by our elders and forebears? In 2001 the giant computer has more emotion and attachment to being, than the people on the spaceship, and is more questioning than they are, more aware.

    I think our questing should continue and our being is dependent on it so keep up John Minto, we are still talking and thinking that’s something. But how to act wisely and effectively, and how to replace leaders once they have hammered their way into their roles and proceed with ever more devastation??

  2. Christians support the killing and occupation because the scriptures say the land belongs to the israelites.
    This is the christians last stand against evil and to fulfil the prophecy of the bible.
    Is thou shalt not kill still relevant today? Christians can find a way around this.
    Where are the combined churches of NZ? Funny they stand united against the treaty principles bill. Good cause for sure but vomit inducing hypocracy.
    The church in NZ is weak and they lack true christian leadership. Where are the true followers of God?
    If you are christian, ask yourself-would jesus kill these children (I seem to recall he loved children?)
    If you support the killing, you will not be entering the kingdom of God and having eternal life.
    The choice is yours-Be warned, do not follow false prophets in the church.
    There are many true christians in Israel.

  3. While I agree with your article there’s not much chance of the ideas getting widespread support while all the deluded religious types hold onto false explanations of prophecy mostly because they have been deceived into thinking they will get a second chance, they want the cake now and think that they can straighten up when required to be saved. Once the plagues hit them they will learn how wrong they are.

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