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  1. Great piece!

    “Studies show that your child might try harder at school and around the home and actually in general life, but it comes at a cost – lower self-esteem, less internal happiness when they reach a goal and resentment towards their parents”.

    Is this not the God-given truth for life in general? Those Alpha personalities, ambitious, driven, lean, fit, diet focused, money-obsessed, asset rich and oh so disciplined and are amongst some of the biggest weirdoes I have ever, ever met. And quite likely a product of such conservative discipline from their homelife as kids.

    Always on the face of it, successful achievers, but behind that exemplary facade, deeply lost souls.

    Life is a tough unrelenting test. That test is to be better all round people and being nice to someone or something and meaning it, is not a failing!

  2. Couldn’t agree more.

    I suspect there are a lot of parents who actually get a secret pleasure out of having someone in their life that they can dominate, tell off, etc

  3. Totally agree. We went the whole route of homebirths, attachment parenting, letting the kids sleep in the bed, respecting our children’s autonomy and homeschooling.

    As you can imagine this was all met with cries of anguish from extended family members, one of whom said she thought we were deliberately looking for any different way to parent that we could find. In the end I stopped being nice about it when the conversations happened just so we could create some space for ourselves. Our kids are teenagers now and there is no need to defend ourselves because it’s incredibly obvious we made the right choice. Our little family isn’t perfect but the thing that people seem to comment on the most is how comfortable our kids are talking to adults. They know who they are and are far more likely to stick up for what they believe in – and for other people who need it as well. I only wish I had been like them at their age.

    I think the thing that most upset people though was they way we treated our children with respect. Some adults were visibly distressed by this approach – almost as if they were expecting their own parents to suddenly emerge from the grave and tear a strip off the lot of us.

    We made these choices (after a lot of research) because we thought it was best for the children but it turned out to be a strangely political choice too. My kids don’t bow down to authority in a reflexive manner, they don’t seek out possessions to sustain themselves emotionally or spend all their time online trying to escape from the world and they care deeply about the people and animals in their lives.

    I have to reiterate that we are very far from perfect parents, and it was very hard work at times but really really worth it.

  4. Yeah,- pretty much agree with the sentiment , Martyn.

    Only sometimes is discipline needed, – and even then, not so much that you crush the spirit of children. So often ‘discipline’ is just a lazy way to get immediate results,… for our own ends.

    Children are not miniature adults and a home should not be a military boot camp.

  5. Tough love is just the modern term for Anglo-Saxon child raising methods; methods that once included placing new babies on a sloping surface to see if they cried (with fear) or not. Those that cried were usually abandoned ( to die) because showing fear was just about the worst thing you could do in pre-Christian AS culture.
    The people that advocate tough love probably mean well, but you have to ask yourself for whose benefit is it actually for?

  6. I loved the blog and comments. It makes me feel grateful to my parents who encouraged the 5 of us to speak our minds, not be intimidated by oldies and respect other people (especially those worse off I realised when I was older).

    I’ve been fortunate to have 4 offspring. One thing I’ve really enjoyed is the way they develop their own characters. A friend thought 2 of them were rude when I told her that when I fell over on the beach, they laughed that I looked like a beached whale. I laughed too, and I love their honesty

  7. Ouch! perhaps I’m a self-righteous Mummy Blogger and shouldn’t have indulged myself. But my comment may not be up and I’m wasting your time.

  8. Respect for sharing something so important to you thank you Martyn.
    I don’t agree with the article you are quoting however.
    I read the quote as the author not understanding kiwi humour “that will teach them” being a jest not an acknowledgement of punishment meted. We can argue if it’s an appropriate jest, it doesn’t offend me, I’m sure I’ve joked similar and I’d walk over hot coals for my children.

    One thing That struck me when travelling is the greatest tie that unites humanity is our love of our children, few people are deliberately malicious.

  9. I completely agree with the comment about the tonnes of unsolicited advice, to the point it gets over whelming. But I have never heard any mums say things like making a kid sleep in the hallway, or moving it’s cot to the garage! I can see my parents generation saying things like that however. I grew up with a mum who was big on “tough love” and as a result was absolutely terrified of becoming a parent myself. But thankfully my mum’s parenting taught me exactly what kind of parent I didn’t want to be. I praise and love my son unconditionally and at 17months he is the most happy and confident toddler, to the point I have other parents at kindy and strangers telling me how wonderful he is. His first day of kindy he made friends with a kid who no one else played with. I cannot fathom refusing to tell him on a daily basis how fantastic he is, in case he gets “too big for his boots”.

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