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  1. Luxor’s dreadful. Seymour’s always looked a sociopath, and Luxon emerging publicly as a vacillating idiot could be even worse than slippery liars Key and English.

  2. Neither work for me. I want governance in NZ to actually represent and manage what New Zealanders want for their country fundamentally. The Swiss system is much more “democratic” in that the smaller parties get some input into running the country. Their cabinet ministers ( Bundesrat ) are a group of seven who are elected for life, proportionally by both chambers of their government, ensuring the higher polling small parties are playing a role in making decisions for the country. Right now four parties are represented in the Bundesrat. The president is chosen on the basis of the longest serving MP of the seven and is changed each year. This very democratic system of governance and is then backed up by usually 3 referendums a year with 3 or 4 questions asked each time. The results of referendums are binding and must be actioned within 2 years.
    SO NZ would be a very different place now if we had such a democratic collaborative team governing our country over the last 30 yrs .
    I would feel my voice was being heard.

    1. For such a system to work, New Zealand would have to raise considerably it’s standard of political, intellectual and social discourse.
      Reason save us if we base such referendums on the same standards of discourse as we are currently exposed to via our incompetent, trivia chasing, lowest common denominator driven media,

    2. The problem with the Swiss system is that, in giving more power to public opinion, you’re actually just giving more power to the corporate media, because that is the main force that shapes public opinion.

      And that’s before we even start talking about the nutters/racists/conspiracy theorists etc., who have as much “voice” in referenda as the scientists and experts…

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