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    1. Well, it’s Hipkins is doing the winding and gaslighting.

      Anybody who still believes the modern Labour party is fundamentally any different to the 1984-90 version is deluded.

  1. Look, Chippy remains a neo Blairist, and will only do things against capital and finance capital’s interests when left absolutely no choice by the Caucus majority and Party Members (if they ever get an effective say again). A staunch monetarist would have resigned if looking down the barrel of retracting his Cap’n’s calls on Wealth Tax and CGT etc. so that essentially marks him as an opportunist career politician.

    NZ Labour did not, under the rules, need to elect a leader until 3 months had passed, hello…after the Xmas break…which is ample time to hold membership meetings and delve into the shit show that Labour has been since 2020.

    Labour needs to change its rules in favour of ordinary members and democracy.

  2. As there a few comments on this page it would seem what Labour says ordoes is not of any interest at the moment .They are truly yesterday’s people with no message and no idea as they can hardly attack a party that is just doing a better job of what they were wanting to achieve. Any ideas of the left now comes from Greens and TPM and most of those are pie in sky dreaming ideas and only think taxing the rich to raise money is the only way .No idea of increasing productivity or making business more efficient.

      1. Actually tell us when National ever increased productivity and no the low wage economy and horrid Saudi sheep deal doesn’t count?

  3. Chippy needs to go by 2026 for sure, but I think it’s best to hold the line for now and let the public see the Alliance of Assholes for who they are while the party rebuilds

  4. Chipboard an amalgam of bits and pieces. Chippy a cardboard character. Labour a gang of entitled complacent inheritors of their parents’ estate sending it into bankruptcy and towards being a post-apocalyptic place. Then no-one can have it because NZ/AO weren’t hard-working, productive and money-hungry enough to want everything in the whole wide world as progressive modern people do, er did!

    1. Agree, Labour turned into the politics party for the hobbyist. The struggle ended for this lot once they were intergenerationally embedded in the public service, comfortable until their transition into the private sector of lobbying and celebrity speech circuits. Chippy got plenty left in the tank for this.

  5. What is more worrying is Carmel Sepuloni FFS. At the time, I asked myself what the fuck she was thinking when she nobbled the Children’s Commissioner.
    Now I understand. I’m not sure she’s as bright as she thinks she is, even IF she’s ticked the appropriate POLS and MEERCATING boxes and learnt the spin lines. Emperors and Empresses and clothes.
    Dress a nasty little specimen up in Kaaaren Walker or similar, and equip it with the vocabulary of a used car salesman, you can fool a load of people. (When I say nasty LITTLE specimen, I lie)
    If she’s the shape of the future Labour Party, they’ll need a lot more PMC consultants and spin doctors than they’ve already hitched their wagon to. Ew

  6. Let us not forget both National and Labour are verging on becoming ‘minor’ parties. Unless Labour rids itself of rogernomics/neoliberal economics its continued demise as a major player is assured.
    Wouldn’t it be good if Luxon and Hipkins would decide to work together, because that is actually what the electorate demanded.

  7. Labour are largely disliked for doing too little too late. Despised for creating a two-tier society. And distrusted for their failure to deliver.

    This current lot are largely done. Can’t see voters running back to them in a hurry. They’ve used up their political capital.

    Competent new faces and better policy is what is required. Then the hard work begins. Regaining voters trust and support.

    Therefore, if they want to increase the chance of National being a one term Government, they need a total reset.

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