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  1. Why should Trump be worse than Biden when Biden has so far shown himself to be worse than Trump as President?

    1. Sure. Biden has weekly insurrection get togethers where they practice overthrowing the election result should it not go their way! Get that Biden is not good but you have to be kidding me.

  2. “The IDF have hilariously murdered their own hostages ”
    Okay, whatever your opinion on the Palestine question killing people is not hilarious.

  3. Self genocide? Shooting first and asking questions later is not military security but wholly instinctual i.e. of the beasts, while presuming guilt over innocence goes against all humanitarian and international law. And shooting someone dead because they were deemed to be in the wrong place at the wrong time (in the case of Palestinians their own country), wearing the wrong clothes while waving the flag of surrender is a war crime (though this isn’t a war), a crime against humanity and murder.

  4. The indiscriminate killing reminds me of a US mass shooting or a Nazi liquidation. If the Israeli government is a true representative of the people then Israelis don’t really care who they kill, even their own innocent citizens. Life, the very essence of humans and humanity, the fragile wonder of nature, is not important to these people. We should be monitoring all Israelis currently in New Zealand for signs of this violent depravity.

  5. Turns out that most of the Israeli rave attendees were shot up by IDF helicopter gunships, I think it might be fair to say, that the IDF have killed more Israelis than Hamas.

  6. The IDF are saying that these killings were a mistake.
    There was no mistake. Two half dressed men carrying a white flag were shot and killed a third was wounded and sought shelter in a nearby building. The unarmed wounded man was then hunted down and murdered while he begged for his life.
    The IDF claim the killers perceived this wounded man and the two others as a threat.
    How long are we supposed to swallow this bullshit.
    These were deliberate murders of unarmed civilians.
    The IDF say they are going to do an investigation. They always say that, they said it with the murder of Al Jazeera Journalist Shireen Akleh. No conviction ever results from these “investigations”.
    Even though the murdered men were Israelis a conviction would weaken the general impunity of the IDF to continue committing horrific crimes against Palestinians and get away with it.
    In the wake of these murders the IDF say they have issued a directive to their soldiers they are not to shoot unarmed civilians.
    This is more fucking bullshit. Only days later an unarmed civilian journalist is shot by an IDF sniper.
    Maybe this killer didn’t get the memo. More likely he has orders to eliminate any witnesses to Israel’s genocide in Gaza.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/301029081/journalist-who-uncovered-decomposing-babies-in-gaza-is-shot-injured

    1. On the face of it, these three, like others before them, were murdered by the IDF because they were assumed to be Palestinians, which suggests that the IDF have no certain way of distinguishing between Jewish and Arab civilians. In other words a case of mistaken identity. In many cases physical appearance and use of the Hebrew or Arabic language may not be sufficient to distinguish between Arabs and Jews.
      The alternative explanation, put forward here by Pat O’Dea, is that they were recognised as Jews but murdered anyway because they were in a position to testify against the IDF, which if correct would suggest that the IDF is now dissociated from the Jewish population of Israel and has become an organ of violence with no loyalties other than to its own members. I don’t think that is the case, but if there is evidence to show that it is the case then I would expect the war to come to an end sooner rather than later – that is within months rather than years.
      The directive from the IDF is understandable, but will create difficulties for its troops. It means that in such situations, whether involving possible settler gunmen on the West Bank or possible hostages in Gaza, they will have to capture the individuals concerned and establish their true identity before killing them if they prove to be Arabs rather than hostages or settlers. That will lead to a final abandonment of moral standards within the IDF, inevitably followed by a collapse of morale.

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