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  1. We already live in a surveillance state with many private businesses deploying highly sophisticated systems of facial ID. Most Pak’n Save stores have systems equal to that of a Las Vegas Casino. I don’t like the idea of more and I am deeply uneasy about the state rolling out what they want to implement.

    The challenge, at least to my mind, is how to balance our societal desire for safer communities (together…) against privacy for the individual.

    I can see the police rushing everything out once a nice white middle class kid gets the bash in central Auckland or a fat American cruise liner tourist gets brutally mugged on their way back from commercial bay as there will be a cacophony of calls for the city centre to be fully monitored and before we know it it’ll be minority report in the CBD.

    The police already can’t manage Auckland and don’t have enough staff or funding so this is a very neat solution. ID the scumbags before they do anything and then deploy a unit to harass and follow said scumbag until he slopes off to somewhere with no cameras – ie, away from the nice places and back to the shitholes where they can cause all the grief they want as it’s out of sight and out of mind

    Middle NZ will think it’s wonderful without realising they’re also being watched. All the time.

    1. It’s already bloody close. Every single NZTA and regional council ‘safety camera’ in the country is already running automatic number plate recognition shared with the cops without even a warrant, and they aim to put cameras near any public transport too.

  2. It seems that our NZ politicians are enslaved and cowards afraid to push back at the neoliberal regime they have imposed on us. Labour was full of hubris at bringing in something that they knew National would want – they stole a march on National and I suppose that Treasury whispered in their ears that it would be financially worthwhile for them, and enable them to stay in power two times out of three which was a win on past performance.

    So dare they come off their pedestal where they stand isolating themselves from people below that their acts of wilful blindness have caused to grow in their minds to be monsters. They feel uneasy and step back from the people they are supposed to care about fearing reaction from those they consider ‘the other’. It is Dorian Gray territory here. They need to appeal to the idea of the five million team, that brought forward the spirit that has perhaps been dormant. And they need to meet with us regularly and show that they are trying to meet the needs of all the people,. The ‘others’ will fade away.

    But if Labour enables a group with poisoned minds, fearful and shaped by their own twisted perceptions, they will find what they seek. They will find those who don’t align precisely to laws of unreason and demolish our opportunity to shape our country to enable people of goodwill to face and deal with fairly and competently, the many difficulties, human and environment thundering down on us.

    Dare they put forward informed professionals with advanced political and economic and humanities education and experience, whose minds are wide, whose vision is great, including peripheral, and who understand themselves and the country and its cultures, who meet and discuss widely with the public and listen to form good policies and plans to suit our deteriorating conditions, and draw us into a true, working democracy. Go for the 90% that aren’t stuck in their own honeypot of riches. Don’t attempt to fool the public and weave phantasmagorian lies about subversives or terrorists by hitting out at anyone who expresses a criticism or a new idea. When we voted Labour we didn’t expect the Kiwi Inquisition! We wanted politicians who equal the All Blacks who play a hard but good game but not just to win at any cost.

  3. State Surveillance seems one of the most resistant subjects to public interest let alone action by large numbers of the people.

    Back in analogue days the SIS Amendment Bill did attract significant public protest in 1977, the bill made it unlawful to publish the names of SIS employees and operatives.

    Fast forward to 2010 and National’s New Zealand Security Intelligence Service Amendment Bill which apart from showering the state snoops with several hundred million dollars in budget increases, granted anonymity for life to operatives, and extended unwarranted surveillance and spying/bugging powers to many other ministries–hardly a peep from the public.

    Photo Driver licences saw people flocking to the malls to get theirs done, a hard core resisted like a mate of mine did for two years, but the fines and harassment got to him in the end.

    Yet come the existential threat of COVID and a significant section of crazies did publicly kick back against mandates and vaccination–so go figure.

  4. There are plenty of non-woke leftists blithely turning a blind eye to the dangerous power grabs this Labour-led government continues to roll out.

    The idea of this being about the different government departments with the government ”innocently” obeying their dictates is part of the deception. Are they supposed to be woefully ignorant as well as devoid of moral principle?

    This pattern has been emerging for a while now. I wonder how extreme and obvious it has to become.

  5. Worse yet, anything handed over the GCSB/SIS will go straight to foreign enemies of our nation like the US and Australia under the 5 perving eyes agreement.

    Under the already existing ‘Gang Intelligence Centre Approved Information Sharing Agreement’, if your IRD auditor feels that you were rude to them and claim you threatened to sik the Mob on them, or your girlfriend’s Housing New Zealand rep thinks it’s convenient to get her kicked out of some nice old Auckland state house they consider prime for sale to developers by claiming you’re an associate of Black Power, all without any further supporting information, that claim goes straight to the Police Gang Intelligence Centre and colours all further interactions that you have with Police and more than ten other agencies.

    Same deal as when Mr. Bradbury had the police lie about him, pretending he was some evil superhacker, except now with the GIC it’s not just cops but random social workers and IRD call centre staff that can put the bad word on you. But if this Data and Statistics Bill insanity goes through it will be every single public servant in New Zealand and all our ‘overseas partners’ that can put the good old black spot on you, and it won’t even end if you leave the country.

  6. Watch a majority Labour govt pass the necessary amendments under urgency and weep.

  7. You fix this I’m coming back to NZ permanently like every other sane kiwi living abroad.

  8. ‘The two new police advisers are technologist Andrew Chen of the University of Auckland and Associate law Professor Nessa Lynch at Victoria University.’
    I have no doubt Mr Chen and Ms Lynch are thoroughly capable researchers however, after six months anything they say or do will be shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted and there will be no coming back from the trans-humanist path so eagerly trodden by the deluded, myself included.
    This bill is an abomination, anyone supporting it likewise

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