How far right is ACT? David Seymour demands race war – that’s how far right

ByMartyn Bradbury

ACT’s David Seymour mocks ‘Red Queen’ Jacinda Ardern in state-of-nation speech

ACT party leader David Seymour has mocked “Red Queen” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern in a state of the nation speech, and is promising to do away with government agencies and remove the Treaty of Waitangi from the country’s laws.

If you honestly think Labour are as bad as the Taliban you have mental health issues and an inability to respond rationally.

Look at their policies…

  • Cut and freeze the Minimum wage
  • Interest back on all student loans
  • No Kiwsaver subsidy
  • Cancel winter energy payment
  • Dump all climate crisis legislation
  • no more best start payments for families with new borns
  • cut welfare payments
  • no tax credits for research and development
  • cuts to working for families
  • $7b a year cut in public services
  • Abolish Maori seats
  • Abolish Human Rights Commission

Let’s be very clear, ACTs call to strip the Treaty out of every law would start a race war.

Game it out:

  • David Seymour cuts a deal with National in 2023 and launches its purge of every Maori political win since the Treaty was signed.
  • Shutting down every co-governance arrangement would provoke absolute outrage within Māoridom and spark a vast number of immediate legal cases which would jam down any legislative process as every single decision made after Parliament passed  the law ending co-governance would become challenged. Political protests would erupt around the country and local councils would find local resistance as Māori groups universally set up occupations of shared governance assets.
  • Likewise, abolishing Māori seats would ignite enormous protests, many of which would quickly escalate into violence. The UN would criticise NZ snuffing out indigenous voting rights and we would face global condemnation.
  • The New Government would then attempt to find anyone within Maoridom who would willingly negotiate new Treaty ‘provisions’ with them. No one within Māoridom would willingly negotiate these and so the New Government, while dealing with increasingly violent weekly protests in the street, would announce that they are universally negotiating these new provisions on behalf of Māoridom. The news that not only has the New Government ended co-governance and abolished the Maori seats but are also now redefining the entire Treaty by themselves inspires all out violent protest and the New Government respond with increasing use of special terror laws and paramilitary Police to keep a lid on the escalating fury within Māoridom at the loss of their political rights.
  • Increasingly global media attention is scathing towards the New Government.
  • Donald Trump calls the New Government ‘wise’.
  • While ending co-governance, abolishing Maori seats AND renegotiating the entire Treaty on their own, the New Government then announces that the Waitangi Tribunal is being ended. This causes an eruption of anger within Maoridom that manages to eclipse the current rage and entire regions are now in open revolt.
  • Before the New Government are even in a position to remove consultation processes, Maori customary rights and any Māori funding, the country is plunged into a full blown race war which the New Government are not able to control.
  • Vast chunks of the military refuse to open fire on a public demonstration after the New Conservative Government order them to.

David can be as much of a smug intellectual as he likes, but selling raw meat racism to angry white males with policy promises that would lead to a race war isn’t clever politics, it’s fucking dangerous and it’s fucking ugly.

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59 Comments

  1. ACT getting wackier by the day. National, ACT and NZF fighting for the Far Right Vote.

    1. @Ngungukai. “ACT getting wackier by the day” One of the two “c” letters in this quote of yours, should be a letter “n”, and then I would agree whole heartedly.

  2. I thought Seymour was part Maaori, obviously not interested in fostering Race Relations in NZ ?

  3. Seymour is simply playing to his strengths and playing to the gallery.

    He knows the country is thick with racists and the ignorant. He wants them aboard. He could say he was going to have Te Reo banned and there’d be many who’d jump on his bandwagon.

  4. Seymour is a joke, the party is a joke and he is extreme right Martyn.
    ACT’s policies will completely divide our country whilst he lives in his smug little Kingdom.

    $7b a year cut in public services… says it all really.

    How many covid deaths, had Seymour been in charge at the border?

    1. Tens of thousands, probably. But most would be the 10%, give or take, who would vote ACT as they are among the minority of NZers who could afford overseas trips for pleasure/business in the Covid era.
      Had that happened, the ACT vote would be quickly (and forever, hopefully) euthanised.
      Not a very smart suggestion, David! Thankfully wiser heads thought otherwise.

    2. Yes.Seymour (AKA Alfred E Neuman) and act are a joke but so are Trump and Boris. I have trouble laughing.

  5. Yet unmandated co governance forced upon us leads to violence reading Mr Trotters well written piece this morning.
    Either we remove the fallacy of “partnership” and wear the consequences, or we enforce co governance that was never in the treaty and wear those consequences.
    This is where our politicians have brought us.

  6. Having sat on a labour appointed conservation board which reflects their co-governance policy I’d argue that labour is the most raciest party NZ has ever seen. Act are saying that we need to have a government that focuses on ‘we’ rather than labours ‘them and us’. All countries who’s governments have become obsessed with race have become failed states (think Rwanda, Germany, South Africa) at least for a while.
    The problem with labour is the maori MP’s are governing for maori only. The resulting policies so often discriminate on race. When you have experienced discrimination based on the fact that you have the wrong colour skin then Act starts to look attractive… Thats the problem. Both sides are becoming more extreme by the day and the short term future for NZ looks bleak.

    2. Yes. If you give it a moment’s thought co-governence is just another word for Apartheid.
      D J S

  7. Who said this:
    “Labour forgets that New Zealand is not just Māori and Pakeha. There are now as many Asians as Māori and half as many Pacific Islanders calling New Zealand home. We need to reinvent the Kiwi identity as an outward looking, multi-ethnic nation state committed to liberal democracy above all else.

    No society where people have different political rights based on birth has ever succeeded. Actually, all the good political movements of the past 400 years have been about equality. This pervasive drift to division has to stop.

    That involves a blunt reality. Nobody is born special in New Zealand. There cannot be two types of people, Tangata Whenua, here by right, and Tangata Tiriti, here by the grace of the Treaty. All people born in this country, and who immigrate here, have a right to one five millionth of the opportunity it has to offer.” ?

    The evil Mr Seymour of course.
    The left has forgotten itself and what actual inclusion and diversity mean.
    Race based voting rights are the road to hell, anyone who knows history knows this.

    1. Thanks for the quote kcc.
      A lot of our ancestors came to NZ to get away from a society where it greatly mattered who your father, grandparents or ancestors were. Blood lines, royalty, ‘blue blood’ class system.
      ,
      Seems Labour is setting that system up in NZ now.

  8. Good thing the proportion of foreigners with voting rights is higher than any other country on the planet. Genius.

  9. I will never the great private ponzi scheme of charter schools. ” oh but look how great it was for children who wouldn’t have succeeded in mainstream schools” people will argue? No problem with that. Problem is profits for private schools give a return to investors. Seymour used government money for Charter schools and the returns for government? Zero.

    https://www.ei-ie.org/en/item/22365:new-zealand-government-announces-end-of-charter-schools#:~:text=Charter%20schools%20in%20New%20Zealand,and%20regulations%20than%20public%20schools.

  10. Problem is either way you are going to have race “wars”. Maori co-governace will lead to war. Ditching the Treaty of Waitangi will lead to war.

    If co-governace becomes entrenched Chris Trotter has it right

    “But, as co-governance becomes entrenched constitutionally, in the same way the ideas of the British settlers concerning the nature of the New Zealand state became entrenched in the 1850s, then its proponents need to be very clear about what is likely to happen next. The descendants of the settlers, and the inheritors of their colonial institutions – which includes the democratic political system itself – will, like the Māori before them, do all within their power to preserve the material and cultural properties by which they and their ancestors were, and are, uplifted and sustained.

    In other words, they will fight.

    There really is no other way the co-governance story can end.”

    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/02/04/something-entirely-different-why-co-governance-is-a-very-bad-idea/

    So basically New Zealand/Aotearoa is between a rock and a hard place.

    Pick you side wisely.

    1. The democratic principle of one person/one vote immediately makes the outcome unfair because the majority dominates totally over everything, consigning minority groups to make do with the crumbs. It is a fundamental flaw in the system. How can you “pick your side wisely” when we are so divided over so many issues?

      1. At what point does the tyranny of the majority turn into the tyranny of the minority?

        Democracy does not mean a 50/50 split.

        If we follow the ethno-nationalist route we end up with the tyranny of the minority. If we follow democracy we end up with the tyranny of the majority.

        As I said, between a rock and a hard place.

        Choose is quite clear. Tyranny of the majority or tyranny of the minority.

        I suggest no taxation without representation and one equal vote for each.

  11. See- more has to come up with his racist backward rhetoric thinking bullshit as National under Luxon are slowly but surely regaining some of their voters.

  12. Maori should have the same rights as every other New Zealander, not more or less, the same. Anything else is complete nonsense

  13. The ignorant racists and misogynists in NZ will be salivating at the thought of ACT becoming part of a right wing government with National. ACT’s policies is their wet dream.
    Even worse, Luxon7 will welcome Seymour & Co with open arms! Very scary. And the msm is working hard to make this possible, by denigrating the PM and the Labour government at every turn.

    1. Yes you are right Mary the MSM is trashing Jacinda but many of us know better. We know who we will be better of with in power and it ain’t either National or Act.

  14. Please dont write about act in capital letters. It makes them seem important, and they’re not.

  15. The treaty is extremely dated and has run it’s course… perhaps we should move forwards rather than continuously looking back to the past? Maybe, just maybe Seymour’s right on this one?

    1. Run for Parliament with Rimmer – let’s see you take it to the Supreme Court and see how far your sense of entitlement gets you.

  17. ACT makes one think fondly of the guillotine. Seymour isn’t the Messiah, he is just a very naughty boy. And like little Rodney Hide, good at self promotion, He produced and mentored a new design that resulted in the Super Shitty. David Seymour wants to aim higher for the biggie with a smile and a merry laugh on his cheery cheeky little face.

  18. Yes you are right Mary the MSM is trashing Jacinda but many of us know better. We know who we will be better of with in power and it ain’t either National or Act.

  19. Sadly i think Martyn is correct.
    That blue A is beginning to remind me of the symbol of a far right party.
    (maybe the Coriolis effect?)
    Poglavnik David Seeyoumourn quietly backed by Pope(ish) Lius X0N would be would be the worst outcome.

  20. The old mutli cultural argument rolled out by keep calm and carry on used to water down our Treaty of Waitangi and our rights as the indigenous peoples and as the TOW partner. We have a right to our culture, language and beliefs. Many of those new here value their own language and culture and still travel to their homeland but we have many older mostly racist Pakeha like yourself here still crapping on anything distinctly Maori.

    1. The treaty doesn’t mention partnership or co governance, such things actually directly contradict the document giving Maori equal citizenship rights.

      Maori arent asking for equal rights, they are asking for special rights.
      When that is going to come at the cost of everyone else, that needs to be put to the country, not forced on us.
      I understand the radical fringe don’t believe in democracy but you should understand the majority of the country do.
      Did you read Mr Trotters piece this morning?
      What is the peaceful way forward?

    2. No one is suggesting you should not keep your culture language or beliefs are they? Apart from cultural activities that do not comply with contemporary law. Where doe co- governance fit into these?
      D J S

    3. Yes Maori have the right to their own culture, language and beliefs.
      As does everyone in Aotearoa.
      It is allowed and protected by law.

  21. It would be simpler if all those Iwi businesses just paid tax like the rest of us – imagine how many ICU beds, nurse pay rises etc could then be funded instead of watching all the money just fade away!

      1. Okay Bertie, Tribes such as Waikato-Tainui and Ngai Tahu have become the country’s richest iwi with combined assets of about $1.2 billion but they pay no company tax on annual profits of tens of millions of dollars made by their subsidiaries with charitable tax status.

        1. https://legalvision.co.nz/business-structures/does-my-business-get-tax-exemption-if-works-for-charity/

          So massive, massive difference here. A charitable trust is not the definition you gave.
          You said “It would be simpler if all those Iwi businesses just paid tax like the rest of us ”
          By definition one could say “”It would be simpler if all businesses just paid tax like the rest of us ” That way you would have an argument and not come across as racist.

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