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  1. If a pet owner, owning a dog for instance, kept the pet in the conditions of the prisoners kept in isolation and let out for just an hour could they be carsitigated for animal cruelty?

    1. Oh, certainly. But in modern Western democracies, the equivalent of ‘bread and circuses’- which at least gives the people receiving the bread and circuses something that they want- is ‘stopping _someone else_ from doing something they like doing’.

      For the left-liberal wing, that might be ‘banning smoking’. For the right-liberal wing, that might be ‘banning clean water’. Both wings of neoliberalism agree that ‘banning prisoners from seeing the open sky’ is good clean fun.

      1. Usually, you make sensible contributions however I do not see how banning smoking in any way compares to the unfair treatment of prisoners. The way that some prisoners are locked up for most of the time is obviously damaging however stopping smoking is a proven way to improve health. I guess you might protest that it hurts their feelings however we ban or make it difficult for people to do many other activities that could harm them so smoking should not get special treatment just because some people make a profit from supplying it.

  2. There are numerous examples all round the world of how to create a good education system, fix the housing crisis, and run a good prison system. Yet we insist on following models that have failed time and time again. I think the prison system in particular is constantly put in the too hard basket – unless they think they should privatise it. Which is essentially putting it in the too hard basket and making it someone else’s problem.

  3. Labour Greens TPM need to continually state they do not support private prisons, that any private prisons will be de-privatised without compensation if/when those parties come back to power so prisoncorp knows private prisons will be a longterm loss making investment proposition. The idea that prisoncorp lobbyists could push lockemup influence campaigns on judges to enhance business profits is anathema in a “free country”.

  4. Do prisoners get overnight visiting rights when they are settled and working within reasonable value recovery conditions? I have the idea that there is not enough consideration given to human relationship needs including sexual.
    What would Celia Lashlie have advised? Also Sir Kim Workman.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNWuajOyG3Y
    32:30 Full interview with leading prison reformist, Tā Kim Workman

    https://www.borrinfoundation.nz/bwb-kim-workman-an-imperfect-justice-new-zealand-speaking-tour/

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