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  1. People think that because a case goes to court and a jury decide guilt, it must be correct. They have no idea how the system works.
    Judges who are accountable to no one are able to exclude crucial evidence, juries making decisions based on limited facts, unfair treatment of defendant during a trial and before, lack of the presumption of innocence.
    I’ve seen it all before and this story has gone the same road. It’s just not right. The system is failing the citizens it claims to protect.
    Breaks my heart and stirs anger at the same time. It’s time NZ prosecuted known save proven false accusors. As long as they ‘get away’ with it, the more common it will become and with the new proposed law, more innocent lives will be destroyed by such lies.

    Jade and Brett, my heart goes out to you.

    1. Unfortunately the ability of the justice system to screw up goes both ways. If you make it normal for false accusers to be prosecuted, many truthful accusers will be imprisoned too. Memories get very muddled up after the fact and that will be used against complainants. I have heard of cases in other jurisdictions where women have been imprisoned where it is not at all clear that they were lying. Cultural attitudes about who is likely to be lying will of course play a big part too.

      1. Women’s groups, especially in the UK, claim that genuine victims are sometimes prosecuted, but there is no evidence for this; they just say that because they believe every complainant is telling the truth. False complainants need only be prosecuted when the evidence is strong. The way it is now, even if a complainant were to announce proudly, “I lied!” she wouldn’t be prosecuted. It’s outrageous and just has to change. The worst offenders need to be jailed, but as far as I know not a single one ever has.

        1. You could also say that under our present system people should not be found guilty of sex offences unless the evidence is very strong. Unfortunately we know that is not true. Just as the proposed legislation goes too far in tipping the balance toward convicting the accused, prosecuting people for making false claims would tip the system too far towards stopping victims coming forward.
          Child sex abuse survivors in particular often don’t appear to have much credibility because they have quite literally been fucked up, and they often get in lots of trouble. Members of my own family took a case against a child rapist, and they won it because they were middle class without convictions, but there were a lot of other victims who would not come forward, and one who did was ripped to bits in court because of her history. She would not have had a hope of securing a conviction on her own.
          The accused had been in prison previously for similar offences, but we could not know that until afterwards. This is a necessary provision that helps protect the accused against wrongful conviction, even though the information is highly relevant and supports the case that the conviction was correct.
          But just imagine if a wrongfully convicted person, as “Brett” appears to be, were to be accused again and the jury was allowed to know he had this previous conviction. It would be almost impossible for him to win the case. It is all about balance in an area that seldom has single pieces of conclusive evidence either way.

  2. This is even more moving and dispiriting than the first part. It’s clear that all the advantages go to the accuser, in a system that assumes guilt from the outset in sexual cases. In the mainstream media we always hear and read about recommendations for making the justice system less stressful for accusers, but what about suspects? After all, we have to assume that they are innocent. I have no doubt that the false accuser in a case like this will still be called “victim” or “survivor” and of course will face no consequences for her employment, financial security or – most important – mental health.

    1. I would not assume there would be no consequences for the accusers mental health. It is widely documented that abused children often knowingly accuse somebody other than the real perpetrator. These are often very messed up people and court cases are very stressful for both parties.

  3. Jade and Brett it breaks my heart to read this but nowhere as much as it broke you hearts – but not your spirits. My father’s friend, the retired detective, told me that the cops policy which is based on what is drilled into them from so-called experts, is that they must accept a complaint of sexual assault as true because, according to the so-called experts, it is true and even if it is not true the cops must still accept it as true and not question the person making the complaint on their statement but put the accused person in Court on criminal charges, which in today’s current society effectively means sending them straight to prison, as you, Jade and Brett, experienced.

    I now know that the Jan Logie sexual violence bill will require the person accused of the crime (normally a male), through his lawyer, to disclose their questions they want to put to the complainer, before the trial and what this means is that the crown law prosecutor and the cops can then go back and prepare the complainer how to answer those questions at the trial. Basically, the complainer is skilled up to close any gaps in their evidence.

    It is shocking to read in Jade’s report that the Judge did not correct the errors and the obvious lies that were being told. As shocking as it is to read what happened to Brett and the flow-on of that to Jade who I admire for the strength of courage she has displayed all the way through this dreadful saga, I have to ask, is that Judge ever going to be held to account for his/her conduct, or rather serious misconduct? Is the Crown Law prosecutor going to be held to account for his/her conduct at Brett’s trial. Are the cops going to be held to account for their conduct in withholding vital evidence? Will the complainer ever be held to account for her lies? These are rhetorical questions because I know the answer to each question – “no”.

    Jade and Brett – my heart goes out to you. Your story is so horrendous that it makes me wonder what sort of society we have become. Your courage and strength are to be admired and I am so pleased that the Court of Appeal saw the dreadful injustice here and corrected the dreadful wrong…….but at what cost to you both?

  4. There are literally thousands of cases like this one, most unreported and hidden from public view. Most people who survive one of these witch hunts want nothing more than to move on and never mentions it again. Thus the wider public have no idea just how common this is. My heartfelt support goes out to Samira for having the courage to defy the odds and speak out.

    The unique aspect of sexual crime is that in a strictly physical sense the acts in question are also happily undertaken by hundreds of millions of people on a daily basis. This inevitably places subjective questions going to motive and emotional impact central to a case. Then allow for the passing of decades of time and the inevitable re-writing of memory means that our Court system is probably the last place we should be trying to resolve the issue.

    A legal system where facts become irrelevant, and subjective selective memories trump all has descended into madness for all concerned. Both accusers and defendants routinely find themselves deeply traumatised by a system intended to bring justice.

    We need to start asking ourselves exactly what purpose is being served in many of these cases. And whether or not a completely different approach to resolving questions of sexual offending needs to be considered. Because the one we have at present is serving all of us ill.

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