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  1. Well – I will be at Parliament on Thursday, despite the fact that most Kiwi’s have either run out of steam on this or are completely bamboozled by Minister Parker’s assurances, and am more than disappointed in our government, in fact, bloody furious with them. I will present yet another submission, hopefully along with a lot of other angry Kiwi’s. This time instead of only presenting I will be asking questions of the select committee – whether that’s protocol or not I have no idea and no longer care. MP’s are supposed to represent us – it would appear the whole lot of them have lost their way and need a kick up the jacksie.

  2. ‘following Russia’s 2014 invasion of the Crimea.’

    Why do we get nonsense like this repeated over and over again?

    Russia did not ‘invade’ Crimea in 2014: the people of Crimea (Russian-speaking) decided they did not want to be part of the fascist state that Ukraine had become (under US sponsorship) and, after breaking away from Kiev, voted to return to union with Russia -which it had been part of since the time of Catherine the Great, and was only relatively recently shifted into Ukraine for reasons of population and industry.

    On the matter of the article in general, politicians do not respond to petitions: they just ignore them and carry on with whatever has been planned by the psychotic sociopaths that control the system.

    Politicians do take note of mass protests if they are big enough, and think hard about reducing the opportunities for people to protest.

    When thinking of politics in general, it is wise to understand the ground rules: policies are based on mantra, not facts; there is no responsibility; there is no accountability.

    1. Agreed the Crimean referendum was a legitimate expression of self determination – see recent statement by Alfred de Zayas United Nations Independent Expert on the Promotion of a Democratic and Equitable International Order:

      https://dezayasalfred.wordpress.com/2018/02/27/presentation-to-the-brussels-conference-on-self-determination-at-the-center-for-european-and-policy-studies-and-intervention-in-the-european-parliament-26-27-february-2018/ extracted text;

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      Another case concerns the separation of the Crimea from the Ukraine by virtue of a referendum and a unilateral declaration of independence by the Crimean Parliament. Although this expression of self-determination with explicit reference to the Kosovo precedent did not receive international recognition, Crimean independence was followed by another act of self-determination – its formal application for reunification with Russia, which was granted by the Russian Duma on 20 March 2014 and held to be constitutional by the Russian Constitutional Court. With or without international recognition, the Crimean people are today Russian citizens. It is not conceivable that Crimea will ever be separated from Russia, except through a major international war, a highly unlikely scenario.

      Whether some political leaders in the world like it or not, de facto states can and do assert democratic legitimacy, since their populations have acted in pursuance of the right of self-determination, and are entitled to the full protection of the international human rights treaty regime. A solution to the impasse can only be through peaceful negotiation, since the use of armed force against self-determination would violate numerous international treaties, including the UN Charter, the human rights Covenants, and the Geneva Red Cross Conventions. It would be the ultima irratio. It is important to underline that there are no “legal black holes” when it comes to human rights, and that the human rights treaty regime prevails in conflict zones and the populations of all de facto States enjoy protection under the customary international law of human rights.
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  3. In the absence of a binding referendum on such an important matter, I hope the Greens bring down this collation Government if they show they’re on a path of non-retractable steps towards signing the TPPA (and whatever it is called nowadays to hide the fact).

  4. 1.The long term answer to both NZF and Labour who have gone directly against the wishes of their own voters on TPP, is to employ a form of” direct democracy “, similar to the swiss public referendum system ,in an evolved MMP system along with a written constitution .This will put the power back in the hands of the people and MFAT can go screw themselves .

    We the people can vote in medical canabis , or throw out TPPA and the politicans will be forced to implement the people’s reform .WE can also vote in whats better for people and the planet once we evolve the new normal .

    Currently most top politicians are owned or heavily influenced by powerful elites who control the legislative adjenda and the private media, but regular peoples referendums can take that power back .

    2. The current TPP still allows for the accelerated mining , transportation and burning of fossil fuels which is an increasing threat to humanity and is in direct opposition to the Paris Climate Accord.

    Its growth growth growth , till the planet dies .

    Its neither progressive nor comprehensive , its ecocide .

    Not all growth is good growth .The world needs a new model of people and planet friendly trade accords , with sustainable economics ,and we need it fast .With direct democracy we can make it real .If its a better model the public will support it and it can be implemented .

    3. It is exciting to see so many ordinary Kiwi’s who are now waking up from David Parkers , MFATS and Jaccindas fairy dust candyfloss spin on TPP in an act of absolute betrayal.
    National put lipstick on the pig ,Labour/NZF has put more lipstick and a wig on the pig ,but its still a pig .75% of Kiwis want an independent inquiry before we sign .Well done NZ .

    You can roll a turd in glitter but it still smells really really bad .

    Whether its blue glitter or red glitter doesn’t really matter its still a turd .What does matter is that Labour and NZF taking our votes and selling us out should only serve to make us more angry and determined.

    Fight on citizens —-NO WAY TPPA .

  5. PETITIONS DO NOT WORK.
    Nor do Marches down the street.
    For goodness sake.
    Wake the hell up and get up to speed
    (TODAYS REALITY= CORPORATIONS RULE)

    1) Boycott ALL MAINSTREAM MEDIA , esp “Herald”, Stuff.co,
    Radio NZ.. etc (one Entity worldwide)
    2) Boycott ALL popular Magazines (=One Entity owns all)
    2) QUIT shopping at Supermarkets (One Entity Centralised)
    3) DISPOSE of your (CANT DETACH FROM) Cell phones ..One Main Entity
    worldwide. Demand back to Landline phones.

    JUST merely doing these FEW THINGS, will go ONE POSITIVE STEP and take back a bit of Power to people.

    Tragically , however these so SIMPLE things are too “difficult” for majority.

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