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  1. Great outline of the problems but no answers except to ask our useless politicians to take notice.

    When the then Labour government under Helen Clark closed the mental hospitals, such as Kingseat and Carrington, she unloaded the care of the mentally vulnerable upon a society neither capable nor supported by suitable mental health state funded structures.

    The answer is to build hospitals like Kingseat.

    But this government (nor any future one) is going to spend the money to build secure mental health hospitals.

    So as a society we have to accept that patients like you describe are going to be a problem. Unfortunately society simply does not care and would rather be blinkered to the mentally ill plight than force a government to build the infrastructure to care for them.

    The story in the article will be replayed over the next 10, 20, 30, 100 years until either society breaks down or the hospitals are build.

    1. Gerrit, I do wonder if closing down the mental health institutions was a very big mistake.

      I am not sure if this man would have ended up in one. I am not sure if people with his profile were housed in the likes of KIngseat and Carrington, but I could be wrong.
      De-institutionalization started well before Helen Clark was PM. It was international

    2. Such true words. If Jackie’s previous blogs are anything to go by, she will have solutions, remembering when you are advocating or lobbying, I’m not sue what her group is, you keep your deck of cards close to you. I would suggest watching this space, because she seems to be quiet capable.

  2. The system is broken.

    We need a minimum of about 6 large facilities. We used to have 4 major ones back when times were simpler and the population was 3 Million.

    The mental health facilities in hospitals are only suitable for acute patients and a fraction of those needing help. We have some care in the community houses but these are few and expensive as a minimum of 2 staff are needed for low risk individuals eg: down syndrome. And they are not suitable for schizophrenics and those with major behavioural issues.

    On top of this, we have a government who doesnt accept that about 17% of the population are intellectually incapable of working. We have very few jobs that dont involve some measure of complexity today so those of 85 IQ or less are functionally unemployable. They cant drive a mower, work a cash register, handle money, use a computer etc. So by the time you add mental illness into the numbers, we have 20% of our population being left to rot and effectively persecuted by the State as there are no systems in place to deal with them.

    I am all for tough on crime but we have to acknowledge that not all our criminals are actually criminals per se. They are the flotsam and jetson of our society who struggle to find any kind of life in our society.

    1. Well said. Absolutely agree with everything you said. I hope your are standing for parliament next year.

    2. Yes Fantail, the issue is not with this government but a Nact one. They want ” everyone” to work period. That is that sad truth even though, as you say 20 % of the population can’t work.
      I remember ANZAC poppys being made by the IHC but it was taken away from them by a government that allowed business to outsource that contract purely based on cost. Those clients had meaning in their lives, that National government couldn’t care less.

      1. You have a good imagination, Kilmarnock Enterprises used to make them after taking over from the RSA & they are now made in Christchurch again. https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/10201610/Anzac-poppy-contract-returns-home
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/poppy-day-10-facts-you-should-know/6N25I4CPRZEVTPVF2O3N2632HM/
        My recollection is that the IHC was behind the effort to close the hospitals for the intellectually impaired which lead to some of the former patients ending up in prison or suicide although those with the right connections get to run new care residences now so another way for private profit to come from what should be a public service. I am not going to pretend that the hospitals were perfect but they could have been fixed.

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