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  1. Headline story in yesterday’s Chch Press nurses fear to go to work due to abuse and lack of staff. Doctors overworked and underpaid. zThe study for 6 years come out with $120000 debt and starting salery $ 65000. Why stay here when over the sea they can get $120000 . In the same paper rest home bosses say they have had to close hundreds of beds in rest homes due to lack,of staff to supervise inmates .This means in some cases they take up room in hospitals .
    When is Dr Do Little going to be honest call health a crisis and change immegration setting as advised by all the appropriate bodies.

    1. I find it interesting that the 1st world sees the 3rd world as the source of cheap labour to provide the standard of living to which we feel entitled. Have we learnt nothing from importing labour without also providing infrastructure?
      There is a global shortage of trained medical staff; remember John Key’s promise to raise NZ wages to those paid in Australia – seems executives got the parity but no one else. How about we start by settling the nurses ongoing pay dispute and aligning their wages with Australia.
      This problem has been years in the making, I can remember it being warned about at least 15 years ago; ever since we ‘commercialized’ nurse training (along with teachers, and apprentices) this crisis has been looming. Entry to medical school has also been grossly over controlled and limited to only the financially able.
      I want to see the government reintroduce paid training for nurses (and teaches) and a better selection and more financial support for doctor training (along with some bonding scheme); and stop relying on immigration. We also need to learn from our covid experience and start paying those that are important to the smooth functioning of society.

  2. Our health system is getting worse as they allow more people to enter NZ and access the NZ health system, while creating conditions to support lower and lower wages in NZ, which drives more professional people needed like doctors and nurses out of NZ.

    As someone pointed out, a pizza manager is now getting residency on the back of their ‘critical’ work skills when it has been clear for a long time that there is a highly organised people trafficking, government green lit, immigration scam in NZ that it driving the growing dysfunction of criminal activity and poverty in NZ.

    NZ has zero transparency. In this case a large rest home hired a fraudster (clearly did not put into place conditions to stop him reoffending) and then gets name suppression. Not justice, just encouraging more large companies to have poor recruitment and prey on other people.

    Land development firm goes to Supreme Court to suppress identity of rest home fraudster
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/land-development-firm-goes-to-supreme-court-to-suppress-identity-of-rest-home-fraudster/HFNW4UIEFJ7I2QA7XBAPIKBHFA/

    It’s got to the point, where everyone just helps themselves in NZ. You will get away with it – from filling up $1000 groceries for free, to stealing from a food bank, to stealing from a DHB while spending more time outside NZ than inside doing their jobs, https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/114004939/no-criminal-charges-for-former-waikato-dhb-boss-nigel-murray?rm=a

    The funny thing is that now those allowing the crimes, now virtue signal how wonderful they are for forgiving and covering it all up.

    What a wonderful recruitment drive, come and stay in NZ, criminals perpetual chances, but if you offend, NZ justice ‘helps’ you by covering it up so nobody reputation is damaged.

    Not that pleasant for the victims, and making NZ a bad place to live and work if you are honest.

  3. Again, thank you to Dr Power. It’s not that clear to me whether this government is deliberately lying, or is being lied to by its inept advisors, or both. Either way, it is bad new for the uninsured.

    1. Spoken by one who champions right-wing governance that drives down the income levels of most, such that the cost of insurance is beyond them.

  4. Under the DHB model it was presumably difficult to send a patient across the border for a colonoscopy for example. Presumably the DHB’s would need very clear contracts for taking patients for a service that each DHB could undertake in their own region. Transfer of patients between DHB’s was common for ‘contracted’ healthcare such as cancer treatment. So in theory this new model should make it easier to send a patient across the border for a timely treatment. Just code the patient to their own region for stats purposes to see if their home region needs more capacity.
    The new centralised funding model makes sense IMO because it is more cost effective to fly people and bus them around to services rather than run costly services where demand may be minimal. We have a health shuttle in a rural area to take patients 3 hours drive for operations/treatment. Accomodation is provided where necessary. Flights also easy to arrange where greater distances needed to travel.
    Thats all pretty simple for people in living in rural areas as they are used to it.
    The bigger picture problem/question. How good do we make the health system? Do we want to ensure every patient is treated fully and timely? What are the ramifications financially? How do we ration healthcare? By delaying care does this cost more in the long run? If the system is too good will people get rid of costly health insurance?

    1. Just by denying access to medicines costs up to $10 in hospitalisation costs and $20 in social costs additional to every dollar not spent on meds. So yes by denying care it costs 1,000s more in additional health costs for every dollar. WHY SHOULD WE NEED HEALTH INSURANCE that crap came out of the USA. It is not that LONG AGO WE NEVER NEEDED HEALTH INSURANCE.

      1. Well medicine funding has been an issue for a long time. Who did PHARMAC have to go to if they wanted their budget increased (although Sara Fitt seems almost allergic to the idea) …. the DHB’s. That was problematic in itself, and probably no different under the new model. Pharmac the “envy of the world”. Bollocks.

    2. Thanks, Orbital Panda. Nice to hear actual practicalities brought up as to why having 20 separate mini empires doesn’t make sense in a country our size. I think there have been a number of non-political voices working in healthcare that have pointed out inconsistent delivery and that was not related to the socio-economic background of the patients.

      I love the way 20 executive boards, and all that goes with that, is not seen as bureaucracy

    3. No it was not that difficult to access treatment from another DHB if your one was not able to provide it. There was even a funding mechanism to support this called inter-district flows. Give-or-take, around 50% or more of Auckland DHB’s hospital funding came from patients referred from other DHBs for example.

  5. savenz. The “critical worker “ visa category also seems to make some immigrants entitled and bossy. A nearby Indian immigrant in a rented house, describing himself as a senior Chorus executive, placed a note on the windscreen of a parked car, two weeks after he moved in. The note said that the car was unwarranted and unregistered, and to do something about it. One or other fact was incorrect, and the vehicle was not being driven, but being shepherded by permanent residents on behalf of absent elderly parents. An Indian chef neighbour condemned Chinese neighbours to me, as dirty people. The Chinese are good neighbours. The chef wheels costly supermarket trollies home and leaves them lying askew outside his door for weeks. A Chinese man plays the flute, and it is lovely to hear on a summer’s evening. The chef’s family raise their voices to each other and their child so loudly within their rental accommodation, that they can be heard by passersby. I am feeling culture shocked.

    1. All the ways people can scam their way into NZ, does not make it a nice place anymore. The honest migrants are not getting in because the whole system is now skewed to scammers.

      In the middle/end of a pandemic how wise is it to allow the largest mass migration ever achieved in NZ with no age or skill or language category, with half the people meeting the bizarre criteria dependants and most in jobs that are labour scams.

      Now Labeen are getting back the aged parents category, when we have a crisis of aged care for existing Kiwis. In the past this was completely abused and within a short period the oldies are ‘abandoned’ by their migrant kids or the fake paperwork job doesn’t exist at the so called rate, so that more foreign pensioners can access NZ benefits like super and aged health care.

      n addition most of the lefties championing this have an aged foreign pensioner on the side that they are championing getting NZ state money for and are remarkably successful at it. NZ is a shambles of unfairness and stupidity. Nothing wrong with aged relatives visiting if they are fit and well, but why are NZ taxpayers expected to support foreign pensioners when they seldom have funds or insurance in place so that the costs all fall on the NZ DHB’s taking up more beds and resources in NZ?

    2. Arseholes are arseholes – wherever they come from.

      But you highlight a problem for working class. Bringing in migrants to compete for jobs and inadequate services drives racism, division, hostility. And the working class are not engaging in Socratic dialogue with university or professional colleagues in perfect English, while safely covered by medical insurance, and going home to leafy, spacious, comfort in warm, well-appointed homes.

      Those of the working class lucky enough to have a home, are jam-packed in tumbledown houses cheek to jowl with their neighbours, struggling with multiple languages and manifold, little understood cultures within a cruel ‘hunger games’ that turns those neighbours into competitors for the means to live.

  6. I heard from an insider that Health NZ is a shambles.

    But they do have a new logo, so all is well

  7. Great article. I always wonder if changing the deck chairs will change anything substantial. Time will tell.

  8. Nice to see everyone finally waking up.
    After all I been saying this for longer than Ian has .

    Our Health system has been almost Americanised.

  9. For background on factors in USA health systems, money and admin etc and the extensive rorts when privatised, I found this economics, business author Malcolm K. Sparrow. I think he is still at Harvard. (He has also written on managing prisons etc.)

    License to Steal – I don’t see it in NZ. on-line but here is USA listing. The cost is not high for used book and the shipping seems fairly cheap. I don’t know why as it seems okay.

    License To Steal: How Fraud bleeds America’s Health Care System
    by Malcolm K Sparrow NZ$1.83 Shipping to NZ $25.53 (Not guaranteed correct)
    Condition Used – GOOD
    Binding Hardcover
    ISBN 139780813368108
    ISBN 10 0813368103
    Quantity-available 1
    Seller
    Discover Books
    Toledo, Ohio
    Seller rating:
    This seller has earned a 5 of 5 Stars rating from Biblio customers.
    Description: etc

    It is a way of metaphorically stealing your blood; to privatise the health system, and puts a shadow over all involved in it. I don’t know how good, honest practitioners could allow this monetary barrier to spoil the respect felt by the ordinary public. This, when there is so much distaste for legalised euthanasia which touches on many medicos extreme sensitivity over relationships with vulnerable patients being even slightly affected.
    https://www.biblio.com/search.php?stage=1&author=malcolm+sparrow

    1. Note Discover Books – they seem more affordable – seem – worth a look when can’t get your choice in NZ. Pick them up on Biblio.

  10. Te Whatu Ora is an abortion. Good people are fleeing, the usual incompetent wankers are lining up (and winning !) the interim leadership positions, the PHOs are still running as rouge entities with no accountability & dumb ideas (and the now defunct DHBs are STILL being blamed for these), contractors are rubbing their insectile legs together & putting their feeders out – and the least this crappy govt could do is make CBD legal so their poor workers could suffer through this hell with some relief.

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