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  1. Hopefully this incoming government will listen to experts in all fields and not push ideas driven by dogma .In the case of gun control the police must be allowed to run a system they are happy with because at the end ofvthe day it will be their members that will have to bare the consequences.

    1. The Police bore no consequences for their blatant incompetence and failure to adequately assess Tarrant. Why will it ever be any different?

    2. The police pushed hard the changes in 1983 that led to the situation in which nobody has any idea any more about how many guns are in the country nor where the weapons are. At the time many of us warned of the obvious consequences. But, you know, the police never back down, just ask A A Thomas. Or Peter Ellis, but hey, you can’t, as he died before having his wrongful conviction recognised and the police have still not fronted up with any hint of accepting responsibility for their role in his lynching.

      Police advice is seldom long sighted nor well considered.

    3. I think one of the issues we have is Police are not expert on firearms issues. A specialist Authority for licensing, registration, admin, training and so on makes sense, letting Police focus on enforcement.

  2. Completely blinkered ignoring the fact that Tarrant had his gun permit legally approved by the Police who ignored/failed to investigate & assist his suitability.

    Disclosure: i don’t own guns & have never had them in my home.

    1. The thoroughness of previous firearms control is just a re-herring to try and stop the register. Security of all data held by any organisation is a huge seperate issue, especially in this on-line world. The questions here are only whether a gun register is necessary to place a level of control on the current supply of firearms, and is there any need for citizens to have military style weapons.

      1. ‘Military style weapons’ – are you including bolt actions like the old .303 Lee Enfields and 6.5×55 Swedish Mausers in that?

  3. Let’s talk about treaty referendums and gun registers. A clear sign they will do nothing about real issues that affect the majority of people and our future.

    Apparently a firearms register and an assault weapons ban with stop Nicole McCharlton Heston “putting Kai on the table”

    1. So, according to you, democracy isn’t a “real issues that affect the majority of people and our future.”

  4. This is well worth reading…some interesting statistics and info…most NZers do not own guns, but those that do are overwhelmingly male–93%, and multiple gun ownership is common. Ready access to firearms is a factor in suicides, 40% of farm suicides involve firearms.

    https://www.guncontrol.nz/s/Fact-Sheet-on-Firearms-in-New-Zealand-21-June-2019.pdf

    Hopefully the Natzos will not want change to the semi auto legislation or kneecap registration, but I would not count on it.

  5. On the contrary, we will need ACT and NZ First to bulldoze incremental Luxon into making the changes that this country voted for.

    1. Over 60% voted for Nat/Lab. How do you equate that with Act/NZF less than 14+% and Green/TPM 14+% and say the country voted for change?
      The majority (60%) voted a conservative middle of the road.

        1. A defective electoral law more like. If Luxon can make a coalition of arch enemies work he could certainly make Nat/Lab work as they vote together, according to Martyn, 70% of the time anyway.
          The law should require the highest voting parties until there is a majority to work together – that would be majority rule, not the current minority extortion that happens now.

  6. Yes! Rewrite of the failed gun laws coming up.
    Gun control NZ insanity going in the bin.

  7. We’ve had a couple of Firearms Registers for a long time (handguns and MSSAs) – it’s surprising that we haven’t seen evidence from them to back up the benefits of universal firearms registration.

    The other point to note is that when we got rid of the old registration for other firearms, gun crime continued to fall, it didn’t increase. Doesn’t really support the benefit of a register but perhaps there are circumstances that mean ‘that was different, this time it will work’.

    1. The issue is the undocumented flow of weapons currently passing (for a price) from firearms licence holders to non licenced people (often with criminal intent). Seems the so called responsible licence holders are not always so responsible.

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