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    1. Yes agree CLEANGREEN band aid politics in all areas of policy not just mental health. But also making money of the sick is sick it is unethical but the gnats have shown NZers they have no ethics or principles its all about the money money money and f… the people.

  1. Try seeing a professional counsellor, a psychologist or psychotherapist in the community. The state funded or subsidised “Community Mental Health Centre” do usually only focus on the extreme end of those needing attention and treatment, and mostly they simply dish out medication, or briefly put people into a respite home.

    Those needing medium to longer term treatment are condemned to ring around or look around for specialists who usually charge at least $150 a session, some $200 or more.

    WINZ only pay up to $ 61 a week maximum in Disability Allowance. So how would anybody get access to treatment, unless it is covered by treatment centres and services that are subsidised.

    Dave mentions Capri, they have now decided that they have to close. Yes, they already charged heaps, who the hell can afford that though.

    There are long waiting lists for treatment in addiction treatment centres and elsewhere, Coleman lives on Planet Key, as we know, he does not care, he simply leaves it to the actuaries to look after health, those that count the beans and they are also bound by what is prioritised by DHBs, whose hands are again tied by what the government offers in funding.

    So nothing changes much, and all this talk is endless BS.

    I know of various providers that once were subsidised but now have to charge fees. People who have cash can pay, others have to beg at WINZ, but as mentioned above, they only pay so much, so perhaps the clients have to go begging in the streets, which will then motivate Councils to bring in bylaws to ban forms of begging, and to round up those deemed a nuisance or homeless, to put them in some temporary shelters.

    We are moving backwards, I fear, not ahead.

  2. But “hey”, the government has this on offer:

    ‘Work to Wellness’, work will set you free, yes it is “therapeutic”:

    https://national.org.nz/news/2016-08-31-helping-those-with-health-conditions-into-work

    But then, we had this before, did we not?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10893823

    After that came this:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11514141

    Not much was discussed about this in public, though.

    I wonder why?

    They sweep their failed trials under the carpet, and do not even offer the “evaluation” they earlier promised.

    And like they conduct these welfare experiments, based on their ideology that the market is best at solving all problems, they do the same in health, including mental health treatment programs.

    We never really learn about the collateral damage, apart from some individual tragic stories, but then the lawyers are called, and all controversial stuff gets swiftly denied.

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