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  1. Agreed Dave as the ruling elite want “bussiness as usual” by roting every dollar out of us 99%.

    Bring on real revolution as we cant go on with this “bussiness as usual again”

  2. I was in UK during the last election and some sectors of Labour were sguesting policies very similar to some of these ideas.
    They lost to one of the worst lead Conservative in years.
    In the last election in NZ 44.5 percent of voters voted for National so nearly half of the population are happy with the direction the country is going. To most fair minded people all is not 100 percent fair but I do not think there is a push for a radical change to the status quo which would destroy NZ on the World stage

  3. Great to read a plan that we can discuss. More and more of us are realising capitalism isn’t working. It’s important to plan for a better future and get rid of the totalitarian measures keeping us locked down now, that will retain the old systems we won’t need. In the meantime we must follow the measures needed to end the crisis, to stop the spread of this lethal highly contagious virus, covid-19.

  4. Isn’t a large part of the answer just worker cooperatives? A move away from undemocratic top down hierarchical organisations to democratic ones.

  5. Great post. We need strong unions. Starting with strong union leaders, get rid of these useless union leaders we now have and get some fanatical, bright quick thinkers that have ball bearings downstairs.

  6. It is annoying that so many contributors make comments about the banking system that are simply wrong.
    One such by David Brownz:- “Government prints money for banks which is ultimately repaid from value created by the productive working class”. I am not sure what he means here but I am sure that he is wrong.
    The government does not print money for the private banks. I think you will find that the Reserve Bank (which is not the government) arranges for cash (i.e. notes and coins) to be printed in response to perceived demand and pays the printers for the cost plus margin. It then requires the banks to buy the cash at face value. This is clearly very profitable for the Reserve Bank, so who is complaining?
    What Mr Brownz does not say is that visible currency (notes and coins) represents only 2% of the money in circulation. The remaining 98% is created by the private banks themselves whenever they issue a loan (mostly mortgages). This money is purely computer entries and as such is invisible (except as an entry on your Bank Statement). That is the process and it isn’t much as explained by Mr Brownz.

    1. Gidday Bonash, central banks are not actually independent of governments, but part of the capitalist state. Monetary policy is heavily influenced by government policy but acts to restrain policy within inflation limits in the interests of capital-in-general. The main constraint on the money supply is inflation which is caused when too much money chases too few goods (and services). This bogus independence of the central banks is the direct result of the money fetishism.
      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/12/central-banks-political-independence-monetary-fiscal-policy
      Money cannot create value. To argue this as MMT does is money fetishism i.e. instead of representing value money appear as value itself. For Marx the money supply under capitalism has limits set by the total labour value created in the economy measured as total prices. If it exceeds total value/prices the monetary unit depreciates to match total value/prices. https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2019/02/26/mmt-minsky-marx-and-the-money-fetish/

  7. Good points, Dave Brown. I trust that they can be further referenced and updated in future.

    Against this backdrop, two questions, please:
    1. How can the AO/NZ Left go ahead with establishing a party as sketched out in your text?
    2. How could the AO/NZ Left practically influence the thematic spectrum for the next national election in a way that fosters eco-socialist enhancement, remaining radical and democratic?

    Any ideas and suggestions?

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