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  1. Be interesting if the likes of nathan and antforce62 actually presented their interpretation of the geopolitics involved.

    Easier to shoot the messenger than to answer, in geopolitical terms, the questions raised?

    I don’t think China has the naval capacity (has the ship numbers but not ships with range to cover, supply and hold the Pacific ocean).

    China is more interested in land colonisation. Central Asia, Siberia and India are more the likely avenue for Chinese “sphere of influence”. Possibly southward through Veitnam?

    Going to be interesting to see where the latest China versus India infractions will lead.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/12/15/india-test-fires-agni-v-missile-amid-border-tensions-with-china

    Why does China resent India? India is fast replacing China as the world’s “factory.”

      1. My comment intro was aimed at the likes of Antforce62 and the now deleted nathan posts.

        I watched your link and like the pro Ukrainian links, needs to be read with a healthy dose of skepticism. Reading the comments on your link is a bit like reading Zero Hedge comments. People that hate the USA seem the be OK with Russian (and China) imperialism.

        Geopolitically what is Russia trying to achieve? The physical destruction of the Ukraine and to what end? Install a puppet regime like Belarus? Ukraine rebuilding costs, I would suggest, are beyond what Russia can afford. Russia, outside Moscow and St Petersburg, is in a worse state than Ukraine is currently.

        The two main centres reflect a Potekim principle.
        Hiding general neglect and underfunded societal infrastructure in the rest of Russia.

        Plainly shown in the recent military draft. The poorest areas are harvested first. Very few from Moscow or St Peterburg were drafted.

        https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/poor-rural-buryatia-russias-partial-mobilisation-hits-hard-2022-09-23/

        The you will have inter generational hatred by the Ukrainian people of Russians.

  2. ‘ ensure that moral considerations underpin defence policy and support the international rule of law against aggression; ‘

    A very fine….principle.

  3. Thanks for another thoughtful commentary, Ben. It’s good that you’re referencing Peter Zeihan because his past predictions have so far been quite accurate.

    A few thoughts:

    Firstly, China will not and cannot invade Taiwan. Its previous threats were just bluster in the run up to the party conference to make Xi look tough and get reelected. It won’t invade for the following reasons:
    > It would lose a million men in the Straits of Formosa trying to get there. Men born into one child families of ‘Tiger Moms’.
    > They would face instant trade sanctions from the West that would shut their economy. Unlike Russia, China is not a major minerals exporter, so we can make do without their $2 shop trinkets for a while.
    > China is totally reliant on oil, coal and gas imports. Given US superiority at sea, we’d starve them to death in a month by blockading their imports.

    Secondly, I will go one further regarding China. I think that it will collapse in a fashion similar to the Soviet Union. It’s already played its cards and lost. It faces so many headwinds now that I don’t see the existing power structures staying in place for more than a few more years:

    > As Peter Zeihan points out, it is facing the worst case of demographic collapse in the next 20 years with its population HALVING by 2035. It’s hard to comprehend just what a disaster this will be for them.
    > Its economy is a giant Ponzi scheme with bad debts everywhere. The recent oppressive behaviour of the CCP has killed off what innovative private industry it once had.
    > China is now an expensive and unproductive place to manufacture, so western companies are slowly divesting and moving to India, SE Asia and Mexico.
    > The Biden administration has quietly adopted Trump’s China policy. It has slammed the door to more tech transfer and the latest chip plants are being built in the USA. They’ve been frozen out.
    > Expect to see more protests…

    Lastly, regarding the lessons learned from Ukraine, I would add two points:
    >The West needs to maintain higher stocks of conventional weapons and ammo and have the ability to rapidly turn on capacity at a moment’s notice.
    >If you have last year’s technology you will lose. Putin’s tanks are a great example. Russia is so far behind that the West could finish off this war at the stroke of a pen if it wishes by lending Ukraine a squadron of F15s or equivalent. Not even the latest stealth fighters are needed.

    1. I discounted most of what said once you made the claim that China’s population would halve by 2035, which is just over 12 year from now.
      China has more depth capability than you give them credit. They may not be able to achieve all they want, but they will one of the 3 or 4 great powers of this century. US will stay in that group, so will China. India will graduate into it.
      Other rising powers, such as Nigeria are the best part of a century away.
      One point I do agree with. China won’t invade Taiwan. Way too likely to lose for all the reasons you state.

  4. “…..the need for well-prepared and equipped land forces that can be deployed quickly and sustained. Deployment of military forces quickly demonstrates resolve and willingness to fight, the only realistic deterrent to aggression. Being able to deploy land forces that can work inter-operably with allies; too secure bases for maritime and air operations is a vital element of collective security in the Pacific region and reinforces the need to prepare for conventional war-fighting on land.” Ben Morgan

    Military build up as a way to prevent war?  Frankly, is completely ludicrous. 

    Military build up will not stop war.

    Military build up to deter aggression is only addressing the symptoms, not the cause of international conflict and war.

    Military build up will just make the war more devastating when it does break out.

    Military build up as a way to prevent war is worthy only of parody.

    Blackadder: The causes of war

    @ 1:52 minutes

    “….in order to prevent war in Europe two super blocs developed. Us the French and the Russians on one side. And the Germans and Austro Hungary on the other. The idea was to have two vast opposing armies each acting as a deterrent to the other, that way there could never be a war.” Rowan Atkinson

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGxAYeeyoIc&t=1s

    “Pacific nations can learn great deal from the war in the Europe, lessons that if learnt well may help us to prevent future wars.” Ben Morgan

    Infinite growth on a strictly delineated and finite planet is impossible.

    The lesson Pacific nations can learn from the war in Europe that will help us prevent future wars?

    Instead of addressing the symptoms, which will only make the malady worse, we must abandon the endless growth economic paradigm that pits humanity against each other and the biosphere.

  5. “. . . the United States Navy is China’s most important economic asset because without the maritime ‘Pax Americana’ protecting oil routes out of the Persian Gulf China’s economy would collapse.  ”

    Out of idle curiosity, why would GCC oil exports to China stop if the US Navy left the area?

    1. According to neocons like Ben, if the American hegemon left Asia alone and maybe even stopped illegally occupying Hawaii, rogue nations like China would start pirating oil tankers heading to China.

  6. David Kilcullen is an Australian, who has spent most of his life working for American neocon groups. We actual human beings don’t care what he has to say.

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