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  1. Should be an easy sell 🙂 Tax cut for everyone and very fair, just 10%. No Gst and no income tax. Tell the Act types it’s an upgraded version of Roger Douglas’s flat tax.

  2. There is so much that needs to be rebuilt. The level of tax receipts will need to increase by a lot, which will mean all the tax cuts for the rich will have to go — to reach the percentage of national income taxed in France, receipts will have to go up by about 44%.

    The old tax brackets (and rebates) used to mean that people earning an average wage or below would end up paying no tax at all.

    If all the tax cuts were dropped, the income tax rate for the highest bracket would revert to 76.5% (where it was at the end of the Nash Administration).

    F.D.R. used to have tax brackets for very high income earners. For someone earning over $180m today, under his rates they would pay 79% income tax (this was eventually raised to 90%). Someone earning $9m would pay 68%.

    However, some of the foreign companies that will need to help rebuild the all the industrial plant and machinery will probably have to be given tax breaks (in advance to the tariffs being put back in place).

    Under Eisenhower, the top corporate tax rate was 52%. So there is a lot of lost tax there.

  3. Yes, let’s adopt a tax (a gross tax with no deductions for business expenses) and see how that goes. Not well I suspect.
    Just about all OECD countries have a consumption tax. As Stephen concedes, there is a reason, they work.
    There is a sensible argument about how far GST should extend (food) but no consumption taxes at all would launch us straight back into all the problems that beset NZ in the late 70’s and 80’s. Based on Stephen’s photograph, possibly before he was born.
    I know it is fantasy of the Left about how wonderful things were then. But speaking as one who turned 20 in 1972, let me say, they weren’t. NZ, despite all our problems, is a much better place today.

  4. Would scrapping GST reduce costs/prices by 15%?In your dreams.
    The rich avoiding paying tax is part of western culture.
    Why would you have over 75 tax havens if it..wasn’t?

  5. I have picked out these statements from the post which should send clicks through every ordinary earners spine as loud as clicks on a geiger counter – because it is so true, and the core of our disease of poverty of mind, spirit and pocket in NZ/Ao.

    …The economists and right wing politicians promised we would be better off, but after almost 40 years experience we know it was lies, and supply side economic theory is rubbish…

    …All that’s left to justify GST is politics. The National/Act political dance of a thousand veils forever promising an economic heaven</b with a second coming, but always just around the corner after the next election, or the one after that.

    Removing GST is a substantial and tangible help for voters. Price rises would be the greedy actions of business. Small domestic low cost businesses would see benefit in a low flat tax rate. Large high cost structure businesses, mostly multi-national franchises would fight like hell. Our local business representatives would generally side with the status quo that pays their salary and sustains their shares.

    But having no GST is just returning to our previous status quo. These are ways to shape the fight.

    Change by Labour can’t happen without a fight; that means challenge, pain, courage and vision. A bit like what the current storms are forcing onto the government and people. We have to change. Do the vision stuff. Get rid of GST fully.

    And have a plan on how to replace the loss from rational economic means – CGY which should be looked at in this case as a money-gathering task rather than wanting it to slow down house purchasing.

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