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  1. This is a classic example of why you put privacy and individual rights first. The ZB catch cry ( I can hear Ada already) of “if you are not doing anything wrong what have you got to worry about” when initiatives like this go ahead, just gets shot down every time. Find power to abuse and that’s what they will do.

    1. No- this is a classic example of putting corporate rights ahead of privacy and individual rights. Right wingers only put privacy and individual rights first when it suits them eg. when campaigning in elections and then introducing legislation when in power than shifting those rights, and all power, to corporations by calling them ‘individuals’.

    2. 250k young people abused in state care, but the police were MIA and are still MIA when it came to investigating. These are lives destroyed, and the level of seriousness doesn’t even compare to retail crime. Yet the Police response shows what the priorities are. Watching us on street cameras, knowing where we drive with number plate recognition, watching what we purchase at supermarkets – we are now all under the microscope of big data surveillance.
      And that is just what we have been allowed to know, so who knows how powerful these surveillance capabilities will become, or have already become. Picture the scenario were some police officer with a grudge about someone, for example “Golriz”, can type that name into their surveillance system, and the system will then output a timeline of the footage and locations of “Golriz” captured by their facial recognition databases for any given day. It’s enough to make the least paranoid paranoid, let alone those prone to paranoia.
      Does the ends justify the means, because with all this watching aka stalking, the crime rate should be zero, and our country should be a safer than any time in history, but that’s far from reality. It’s good people that make a good society, not good surveillance.
      From a mental health perspective, the police blind eye to abuse, and all seeing eye to retail crime, is almost schizophrenic. While increasing levels of paranoia caused by ubiquitous surveillance, in an already paranoid world, will probably result in the increase in all manner of wacky conspiracy belief uptake, extremism buy in, anti vax, anti moonlanding, and whatever comes next, you name it. Even the leader of the free world once advocated bleach treatment for viral illness disinformation.
      Tarrant’s aren’t born, they are created by radicalization and paranoia and conspiracy thinking such as his “great replacement” claptrap. Big data surveillance isn’t making society any safer, but it may incubate more Tarrants.
      Maybe the police angle is, that they don’t care if they contribute to generating more crime, as long as they catch the perpetrators, they are doing well, and as long as the perpetrators aren’t any of the untouchables who abused children in care. Public servants generally, and those involved in the state care of children particularly, should come under greater scrutiny from police when their is a possibility of wrongdoing, not less.
      Public servants should set an example of behavior for society, not an example of mafiosi behavior, and need to be held to higher account, not lower account. Its currently all wrong, and it doesn’t look like its being put right. If a complainant goes to a police station tomorrow, with an allegation of abuse in care, nothing will have changed, and we will end up needing another royal commission about it later on.

  2. Since the staff are forbidden from getting involved with thieves as they force their way out, cameras are the only recourse the shops have to ID thieves and ban them.

    I favour the Singapore approach – caning for miscreants such as this.

  3. Golriz was approached by staff before she reached the checkout so just by entering the store she triggered an alarm. This raises questions about police cooperation with mass surveillance and the level of police input into the system, the legality of which should be made clear.

    1. Peter Maybe not. In a local supermarket duty managers are notified in store when persons-of- interest appear, and they whizz towards the entrance. They know the local shoplifters. Most nearby retail businesses have their own cctv, including the charity shops.

      As far as Golriz is concerned, there’s noting indicating that she intended stealing again if she hadn’t reached the checkout.

  4. We are aggrieved Bob. Seeing politicians taking advantage with insider trading really pisses us off.

    1. Nitrium Victimhood is the dialectic of the identity politics brigade. The offender becomes the victim – for whatever reason- and the media support the faux victim.

      1. Well the ACT predator chairman of the ACT party now a convicted sex offender Jago managed to keep his identity secret because it may have affected the election chances of ACT. Now is that political or not. So whose the faux victim ( victims) here the politician or the ACT party who may have suffered in the election. Or other people who could have protected themselves against Jago the predator . So is it ACT or the victims.

  5. The manager of a Wellington Sallies’ Shop had her handbag stolen from the staff room out the back, about two weeks ago. She said that she sent the CCTC footage through to the police herself.

    Today she told me that the police have ID the thieves from her CCTV footage, a woman and a man, and both are being charged, the former with burglary plus another offence, and I gather one charge for the man.

    She said that she had very little money in both her purse and her bank account, so fortunately the thieves weren’t able to get much via paywave.

  6. CCTV enabled the police to catch the wicked murderer of English tourist, the late Grace Mullane.

    1. Parents should keep an eye on their children and guide them until they are fully adult, mature, and clued up about keeping safe. In the 20th century women took self-defence lessons! We should not rely on CCYV tp catch attackers and whatever criminals, druggies, that are out there in society.

      We don’t want our every move scrutinised because of possible dangers from the criminally inclined in society. Just think the trouble that tech has caused for us with scammers and spying already. Be aware peeps, the world is not completely safe for those still tip-toeing through the tulips.

      Adults have trouble remembering to take their eyes off their devices when they step out onto the road now, wake up you out there! We are becoming unwisely dependent on others to look after us and tech companies will gladly charge us some fee for systems to fill in our attention gap.

      1. Most parents do their best. Blaming Grace’s parents for her horrific death is unfair, and doesn’t alter the terrible actions of her murderer, which may not have occurred had he known that CCTV followed him throughout Auckland.

  7. “Why have we allowed Food Corporations so much power, including filming us? They have an obligation as part of our food supply chain that goes beyond thieves, so why are we allowing them to use theft as a means to spy on us in their shops?”

    Its the slippery slope. Big Brother is watching. Not you, personally, not this minute, but step outta line and they’ll be coming for ya. A good thing? Well, yes, if its aimed at catching the bad guys (apologies to any bad guys who feel aggrieved at being singled out). CCTV – mass surveillance now with face recognition technology – is no longer confined to the Bourne Legacy. Factor in 5G GPS and whoa … how can anyone4 step outside without wondering who’s looking at your every move. Even in you own home some faceless corporation is tracking you. Yep, good question, how have we let all his happen? A tenancy for control? Certainly not unforseen. Or unprecedented. Unintended consequences? Poor checks and balances? Yep, we do feel a bit helpless at where its got to and where its heading. I do.

    But fuck it. I won’t be getting anxious about it. I’ll still be helping myself to the pick’n’mix and I’ll suck it up when a camera operated speeding ticket (often just 5 kph over the limit) arrives in the post. I’m past shoplifting, fortunately. And you won’t find me vandalizing the CCTV equipment or taking out the 5G towers.

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