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  1. Agree with every ing you said in this article Martyn.
    Booze merchants are drug dealers.

  2. $ 10 cheaper for a dozen beers in supermarket. They run it as a loss leader to get peeps to shop in store. To expensive at grog shops

  3. “If you are selling a product that is addictive, you should pay for that social damage as well.”

    Yeah but if you enjoy a drink, a lotto game, a bet on the Melbourne cup or The Warriors, a game of black jack, should you pay more tax than the wowser who doesn’t like those pleasures?

    It’s not like other pastimes don’t have expensive consequences, rugby head injuries, trampers search and rescue, artists living on the dole, people run over by jetskis etc.

    Everything in moderation.

  4. Hear, hear knowing an alcoholic who would have died in the gutter without someone taking responsibility for his welfare, and another in Australia who bought flagons of sherry and set her mattress on fire, is a regular reminder of alcohol harm. Now seeing the heaps of RTDs fairly poor neighbours throw out, usually in the wrong receptacle, the waste of lives and needed money that could be spent to raise ‘spirits’ in other and less damaging ways is a stark reminder of the strength of the alcohol lobby. When an RTD king’s helicopter went down with him I was not sorry.

    The gummints have always done well from the alcohol business which no doubt had big persuasive power in keeping down cannabis. And to make it worse, the beer side was sold to Japanese. And whoever else for other tipples. The vineyards do some good, but many are overseas owned, so we shoot ourselves in the foot when we have our shots of spirits!

    Right at the beginning alcohol was cutting into Maori who hadn’t had their own fermenting ways to match those of the incomers. The book They Called Me Te Maari, Florence Harsant,
    is how she took on a project of riding all over the East Coast of the North Island on a black stallion, visiting hapu, introducing herself and talking to them about the dangers of alcohol then trying to get them to sign up to the rejection of alcohol attempted by the Womens Christian Temperance Union. It was a very demanding project. She did good, and also broke through a line set up to isolate a measles-hit Maori village from the outer world to advise the health authorities of their dreadful plight akin to the effect of plague. Florence became sick herself IIRR. The book is available at $75NZ but may be a little cheaper elsewhere but those prices are often in US$.

  5. We need to follow Australia and make vaps a prescription medication through chemists with no compensation to tho current sellers.

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