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  1. All this is commendable but it’s finger-in-the-dyke stuff until the world addresses the “supply side” of climate change. To do that, fossil fuels have to stay in the ground. How do countries pay for their damage control measures? Apart from the financial transaction and windfall taxes suggested, big oil and coal must pay reparations as they have known of the damage they’re causing for decades.

    1. People need energy. Just existing requires a lot energy. 8 billion people requires an incomprehensible amount of energy. Let’s say all of the coal and all of the oil stays in the ground: how do you expect to replace all of that energy with enough to provide for the needs of 8 billion people (and rising)? I think most people who advocate Net Zero think that we can achieve this simply by transitioning to so-called “green” energy and going on as we did before. This is delusional. “Green” energy is neither abundant nor reliable. Where is the infrastructure? Where does all of the extra electricity come from to supply everyone’s EV? It doesn’t come from anywhere, and it’s not supposed to. Climate change initiative are meant to remove personal autonomy and replace it with technocracy-based servitude.

      “Net Zero” means a dramatic reduction in standard of living and the ability to exercise personal agency. “Net Zero” means everyone living in heavily surveilled and controlled “15 minute cities” wherein your movements are heavily curtailed, and currency in the form of centrally controlled CBDC’s that can decline your purchases if the government sees fit, as well as being able to cut off your access to funds should you express any dissent regarding your new “green” open air prison you advocated for.

      Nuclear energy would of course solve the fossil fuel issue and provide abundant energy as an alternative. But that isn’t the point: being able to provide abundant and reliable energy would mean that, as a consequence, there would be no justification for centralised control of everyone’s life, under the pretext of “reducing emissions.”

  2. Think it was just a deep low that tracked the northeast of the country. The rest of the country is not in emergency. The lesson is to don’t build in riverbeds, around cliffs, on flood plains and on beaches. The takeaway is to build roads and bridges like they do overseas, structures which can handle large volumes of water and the elements. The advice to the government is to stop playing politics with the weather and look after the 30,000 families already on the house waiting list as well as the 3000 just added to it.

    1. So why bother building roads in those areas if you are not going to live there/build houses there?

  3. Wonder if the government will treat this emergency like they did with the covid human experiments, lock the country down just because they can and then wheel out dancing roadworkers like we saw with the nurse flash mobs.

    1. Hey, nobody said that removing people’s rights and restricting their agency under a confected sense of emergency couldn’t also be fun. Thank goodness for TikTok and teddy bears in windows.

  4. What Martyn is suggesting will inevitably become an unstoppable political force for one simple reason — everything he is talking about has been done in this country before, and existed at scale up until the mid 1980s.

    However, the number of people who actually remember the ‘glory days’ of the 1950s-1970s is rapidly dwindling. Clearly the plan is to prevent the corporate media from ever discussing the achievements of the labour movement (which they don’t, and haven’t for 30 years).

    Any new generation of organised labour can then be prevented from being mentored by the veteran union leaders, so that their institutional knowledge dies with them.

    Martyn is right that people will demand an end to globalist trade policy, and that high value-added, high-wage production of complex goods will inevitably return. However, building a largely self-sufficient economy will be a slow grind if there isn’t international collaboration.

    Countries such as China, the Gulf States, Japan and Russia can all assist in rebuilding a modern industrialised economy. They have large amounts of money and modern machinery which can be immediately deployed — and, crucially, they are all countries with substantial state owned industries.

    As such, unlike the Americans, they will be willing to work with another country trying to rebuild its self sufficiency and state industries.

  5. Right on Brother, the future has arrived! NZ has to lead in the ethics of climate stability, we also have to be prepared for what may come- be independent and self reliant. New Zealand is at the end of the global supply chain, our provinces doubly so. Give communities the power to take action, Civil Defence for example, fund the folks on the ground directly and back them up with a nation wide government department. Same with roading- local contractors for small jobs, ministry of works depart for the big jobs. Regional resources for anything bigger than that. It needs a total shift in thinking for the future.

  6. Many of the people who like to lecture everyone else on climate change (btw all “capitalists” who, you argue, are the ones resisting the idea of AGW) also own extremely expensive beach front property. If only they’d have looked into “The Science” before they wasted their money on what will inevitably plummet in value in the next few years.

    Whatever way we look at this, it gives us two good reasons to ignore their alarmism:

    1) Either they believe what they are saying and yet are so dumb they still invested in beach front property (thus we shouldn’t listen to them); or
    2) They are not being honest about what they are saying, as evidenced by their choice of investment (thus we shouldn’t listen to them).

  7. “De–growth” is a rather good way to put it. Localisation, winding down industrial dairy, etc. will likely lead to a more pleasant and viable life for working class NZers. Farmers–wake up! Grow some Cannabis and Hemp and vegetable crops.

    But…the biggie in the room is…mainstream “people’s politics” needs to leave Parliament behind and become anti capitalist, including anti finance capital bollocks like stocks, shares, hedge funds and crypto.

  8. The dye has been caste and the genie cannot be put back .No matter how many buy EV the world is not going to improve the weather . Messages are mixed like FIJI asking for more money to fight climate change then advertise in UK to fly there for a holiday and ever get married there .
    We need to build with resilient to combat the worst weather just like Chch has with the rebuild .Building were built to stand while people evacuated now they are built to still be there .We have the technology we just need the will

  9. Yes we need to be honest. This storm started thousands of kilometres away from us. Anything we do here would have a minuscule effect on climate change. Meanwhile we punish our economy can’t afford to pay for welfare, education, and Health.

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