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  1. Whilst all of the above may be true, it is all peripheral to the main issue.

    The heart of the criminality is the creation of money out of thin air and the charging of interest on that money created out of thin air. The heart of the criminality is official endorsement of creation of money out of thin air and official endorsement of the charging of interest on money created out of thin air.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrJGlXEs8nI&nohtml5=False

    For some reason contributors to TDB avoid the fundamental issues like the plague and continue to focus on the symptoms of dysfunctional systems.

    1. “The heart of the criminality is official endorsement of creation of money out of thin air and official endorsement of the charging of interest on money created out of thin air.”
      That is so true.
      Why do governments, who are suppose to govern for the good of the people, allow private corporations to create the credit the country needs to function? Rhetorical question of course. Governments govern for the good of corporations of course. And we, the hoi poloi, are just their fodder.

    2. People keep saying this but fail to explain how it happens. Put the numbers to paper with the reserve ratio & the number of banks & anyone with half a brain should see what is happening. While doing that try seeing what happens by charging interest & how that creates the need for an increasing money supply. Its fair to say the system is a con which is why it needs regulations. Bring back the pre 1980 rules & things will work better.

    3. The Reserve Bank of NZ has openly stated that 97+% of new money in NZ is created by private banks. The Govt and people only print “replacement tender”. NZ could fund widespread social programmes and infrastructure, and , fund resilience in our industries; if it issued all the new money, and that would not be reflationary.
      Money is bled out of NZ on a massive scale through banks and transnational corporations who are taking over rapidly and expatriating our wealth.

      The RBNZ has board members and advisers from private business including the parasitic finance and insurance sector.

      Money for jam and controlled by private bankers through many and various connections not made public.

      Govts pass legislation to assist private banks but the legislation is always disguised as having another function.

      Land price bubbles are a bonanza for banks hence Nact will do nothing to curb the bubble. When it bursts, in is the land holder who will loose not the banks as they will walk away with assets to realise against the falling prices, but not to worry because the banks just created the money and now the cash they get will be theirs – out of thin air.

      A denial and cries of losses by banks are fictitious as they move cash gained into assets no longer then available for realisation by the banking body.

      Anyway if they overplay their hand in hollowing out available equity deliberately as they do, then John Key has allowed the banks to use your deposits to bail out their “depleted books” which are not open for public scrutiny. A black hole.

      And the equity they hold in the best sureties is already ring fenced to overseas banks so is not available to bail out local gambling bankers who have overplayed their asset divestment. We loose to banks all ways with the authorisation of this Govt.

      Nationalising banks as non profit institutions owned by the people of NZ would see US frigates at out door. Libya had a state bank that defied the IMF and World bank so Killary Clinton and Co sacked the country and looted heavily.

      We are already occupied.

    4. Absolutely correct, but for some reason this conversation isn’t allowed to see the light of day in any mainstream media. In fact, it barely sees the light of day in the blogosphere? Why is this? Why are people afraid to state the obvious? The present system is a con job and a means of enslavement, and most politicians are well paid enablers.

      Try and raise this point in conversation and you will be barred from their site. It is such an obvious issue but try getting a reply from any of the economists in this country. I’ve tried with every one of them. Not a single acknowledgement of receipt of my questions let alone any attempt at answering or addressing them.

      This is the central issue behind every single other that anyone cares to raise. It is the root of all problems yet we aren’t allowed to even discuss it! The system is totally rotten, look at the candidates for Auckland Mayoralty interviewed on The Nation. Four right wing stooges, and I include the TPPA enabling career politician Phil Goff in that.

      It’s a joke. Until this issue is sorted there is no point in talking about housing, health, education or any of that. If it was sorted none of these would be a problem.

      1. ‘This is the central issue behind every single other that anyone cares to raise.’

        Correct.

        This conversation cannot be permitted in the mainstream media because this conversation would destroy confidence in the system within days of it occurring in the mainstream media.

        The mainstream media, government agencies etc. are therefore fully committed to ensuring the is NO discussion of fundamental issues.

        The ironic effect of preventing this conversation is to cause everything that matters to be made worse……pushing the system towards its own collapse and pushing the Earth towards becoming largely uninhabitable.

        Thus, we see that politicians and heads of corporations would rather destroy their own children’s/grandchildren’s futures than allow discussion of, or reform of, the corrupt and unsustainable systems.

        It’s a bizarre world we live in.

        1. AFKTT

          It is a sickness we have. Tolerating parasites and allowing them to control what we believe.

          Our tolerance is deliberately stretched through trying to cope with the suffering bestowed on us as we struggle to get to grips with the very idea of ridding ourselves of the vermin that have entwined into nearly every corner of our economic, cultural, family and academic life.

          The inertia of the parasitic mechanism can be counted by understanding of how a systematic restructure of our health can be achieved.

          But there are many gate keepers who depend on the present parasitic malaise as a base source of their wealth. We tolerate them and they in turn continue to exploit and damage our future.

          This process goes much wider than money. It involves the broader responsibility for the planet and our children’s future.

          We need an injection of activism to draw clear lines of what should not be tolerated and the direction for change in the public’s perception of a health societal structure.

          The powerful glue of cooperation and responsibility for the group, is at present largely dysfunctional and this affects every facet of our societies value system negatively.

          The slave master mindset is not only manifestly inadequate for our health but is fundamental to our malady.

  2. Check out what – MAX KEISER confirms about the NWO and its connections with the banking domination and corruption.

  3. Traditionally banking used to be an essential institution and legitimate business, but what we have had evolve over recent decades has turned much of it into a huge game of monopoly or even a casino enterprise. Hence the GFC we still have not quite overcome.

    Strict legal rules, frameworks and community oversight are needed, so that such excesses are stopped and disallowed for the future. The international finance sector has its fingers in too many pies, where will it all end?

    But people fall for so much, now I hear the new insurance entrant to the market “youi”, has been exposed, as rorting the system and ripping endless numbers of people off.

    And some in the MSM, now strongly critical of that company, they were running endless ads for them for over a year, earning themselves from it.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/78294590/Youis-heavy-handed-sales-practices-condemned-by-customers-and-insider

    1. Banking has not been a ‘legitimate business’ in the English=speaking world since before 1694, when the Bank of England was established on the basis a fraud: fractional reserve banking.

      Once banks began issuing more notes for redemption as gold than the actual gold they held in reserve the entire system became fraudulent. As time went on they became more fraudulent. Now most have no actual reserves. And now that sovereign debts are so huge, central banks have adopted ZIRP or NIPR to prevent an immediate implosion of the system.

      Since the system is dependent on perpetual growth on a finite planet it naturally follows that the whole fraudulent scam must collapse fairly soon, what with global extraction of oil having peaked and other resources close to peaking.

      I suggest you become informed about how the banking sector REALLY functions (e.g. The Money Masters, Money as Debt, Zeitgeist etc.) rather than hanging on to the myths promoted by bankers.

      At this point of time is suspect les than 0.5% of the populace understands how the money system works, which is one reason why corrupt politicians can get away with telling such huge pork pies.

    1. You’re right you’re bright you’re bloody well right Mike,

      You’re bloody well right to say.

      Banks are leeches and when they need more profit they just squeal that government policy is bankrupting them and the Government comes to the rescue right away.

  4. Banksters are probably the craftiest of all middlemen – those parasites who pretend to offer a necessary service, but contrive to rob and exploit both the producers and the consumers. Christ threw them out of the temple, but they seem to have got back in, sold off the altar, and privatised the pews.

    1. John A Lee pressed for nationalisation of banking in the 1930 and achieved steps along the way. State housing was a back door mechanism for the state to create its own new money and it worked extremely well. We still enjoy that legacy except mow the bankers want to destroy it via Key / English sell off / privatisation.

      The City of London leant hard on Nash as Minister of Finance with threats blackmailing NZ to put the brakes on a program of nationalisation. Nash folded in the face of undisclosed personal stand over after all he had a family so was vulnerable.

      Savage was gutless and then blocked John A Lee’s progressive vision at the very time when we were on a roll and most likely to have achieved real progress in setting a better foundation for NZ society.

      These tribal money controlling parasites operate in packs well out of public sight. They have a lot to hide and so has Key. His relationship with them at one level is well documented, comprehensive, with roots to the core and selected by Allan Greenspan to further their conquest. Key is here to do a job for them – not us. What he gets from Bilderberg meetings and behind the scenes direction is well protected and probably beyond hacking.

      Although we are occupied by both City of London and Wall street divisions, resistance is not only legitimate but essential as these bastard vermin will not go away voluntarily.

      They must be forced out and in this occupied country, it is the duty of every citizen to get educated and mobilise. It is our country not theirs. Ignoring the situation is not an option as the inequity grows and their power entrenches. Privatisation of everything ensures deeper echelons of slavery with ranks of slave keepers.

      Don’t be afraid of speaking out as their hostility is veiled and as yet somewhat covet in rhetoric.

      An effective leader in NZ will not emerge and survive without a groundswell.

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