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  1. If rich countries need to cut emissions more severely than developing countries because they benefitted should boomers not be required to cut their emissions more than the young? Afterall, they caused this mess whilst enjoying excess and enriching themselves. Green tax should be increased for the boomers who are generally much richer anyhow so it will be less of a burden to them.

    1. Us boomers would have been a hell of a lot richer if we hadn’t spent so much of our money supporting the young.

      1. Perhaps thats why so many boomers are now actively trying to destroy younger peoples futures because they hold a real grudge at having to use their own money to bring up their own kids?

      2. That might be true @ Robbie. Even though I’m not into martyrdom, I always felt it was my duty to ensure my offspring were, and are due a better life than me – as did my parents. And having passed on my worldly goods before I kark it, so far my offspring have reciprocated in supporting me as my dotage approaches.
        Maybe you shouldn’t have had kuds – they’re not compulsory

  2. Another great post Chris. Thanks!

    Too often equity isn’t as shown in the illustration above. Instead of putting the short kid on the box, the tall kid gets his legs cut out from under him. Such is the case with boys in the state education system. The Ministry have for the last 30 years been focused on advancing girls in the education stakes and have succeeded, but they’ve done this removing high stakes exams that boys generally excel at, expurgating the contents of the syllabus of anything of interest to boys, filling the staff rooms with women and demeaning males at every turn. The net result is that we’ve fallen behind other nations in our overall standard of education.

    This is what will happen with He Puapua. It might elevate some brown people but overall as a nation we will worse off. Equity is tyrannical.

    1. Yes Andrew, put another way; equity requires enforcement, a tyranny to implement. That certainly appears to be the case, The Red Terror anyone?
      “We are not fighting against single individuals. We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class. Do not look in the file of incriminating evidence to see whether or not the accused rose up against the Soviets with arms or words. Ask him instead to which class he belongs, what is his background, his education, his profession. These are the questions that will determine the fate of the accused. That is the meaning and essence of the Red Terror.”

  3. The only thing more laboured than your metaphor is the Government who have laboured hard to do nothing…

  4. Equity is also lowering standards.

    Apparently instead of giving doctors and nurses a pay rise, they are putting in less qualified ‘heath workers’ to do their jobs who for ever reason are unable to qualify higher, and paying them more instead.

    Lowering of medical standards continue!

    Same for education in NZ. Now everyone is supposed to pay for an expensive degree. Whether you are in the trades or not. Whether you speak the language, have comprehension and capable of passing the course or not. Everyone is expected to pass.

    Our previous system which had world class health workers, professionals and no shortages of trade workers who knew what they were doing, has been abandoned for the neoliberal ‘equity’.

    Equity is not equality.

    Equity means that someone who is unlikely to be qualified, are building your house and nursing your parents and the profits siphoned off to business interests.

  5. ‘What that fairer solution might look like is set out in the He Puapua Report. Its authors have come up with a twenty-year plan to give effect to what they see as the promises of equity (not equality) embodied in Te Tiriti o Waitangi. ‘

    This is just more delusional nonsense on the path to extinction via collapse and starvation that has been delivered by people in privileged positions of power or influence who are actually ignorant fools (or well-paid liars)..

    There is no ‘twenty years’.

    That has been very clear for a long time, and has been vividly emphasised by latest report on fossil fuels -which this mad society is 100% dependent on.

    ‘Vast majority of fossil fuels ‘must stay in ground’ to stem climate crisis

    Analysis shows future is bleak for fossil fuel industry with trillions of dollars of assets at stake

    Damian Carrington Environment editor
    @dpcarrington
    Wed 8 Sep 2021 16.00 BST

    The vast majority of fossil fuel reserves owned today by countries and companies must remain in the ground if the climate crisis is to be ended, an analysis has found.

    The research found 90% of coal and 60% of oil and gas reserves could not be extracted if there was to be even a 50% chance of keeping global heating below 1.5C, the temperature beyond which the worst climate impacts hit.

    The scientific study is the first such assessment and lays bare the huge disconnect between the Paris agreement’s climate goals and the expansion plans of the fossil fuel industry. The researchers described the situation as “absolutely desperate”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/08/climate-crisis-fossil-fuels-ground

    Of course, even that commentary indicating we can no longer continue using fossil fuels is actually bullshit because even if we stopped using them today the effects of past emissions continue to overheat the Earth.

    That said, we already know that insanity has become fully institutionalised and the crimals/clowns that set policy will advocate continued ‘economic growth’ and other such bullshit that is completely detached from reality in a world that is well past peak oil and undergoing accelerating meltdown.

    As I pointed out to my local council just a couple of months ago when challenging their bullshit about “Finding a Fair Way”, what could be more unfair that eliminating all prospects of a full lifespan for the children of the district because the council refuses to accept reality?

    The same bullshit is delivered by the regional council, whose ‘plans’ for the next 10 years include ‘growth of population’ and expanded use of fossil fuels.

    As I said, insanity has become fully institututonalised and the system is riddled with incompetent fools who haven’t got any idea what they are talking about, and who refuse to do any research.

    It is SO INTERESTING to live in these times of institutionalised lunacy.

    As for equity and equality, well we are going to find out all about them in the next year or two, as the system collapses a but more.

    Gail Tverberg, always on the ball but always guarded in her comments, points out that we are sliding down the energy curve right now, and its going to get a lot worse.

    https://ourfiniteworld.com/2021/08/30/the-afghanistan-fiasco-and-todays-high-level-of-conflict-reflect-an-energy-problem/

    But ALL proper analysis get ignored (of course0 by the clowns and criminals that constitute the political body, and they continue to make everything that matters worse whilst keeping the masses utterly deluded about the future.

    As CB has pointed out on numerous occasions, as I have, it’s the money system and the banks that are at the heart of most of our problems.

    What could be more unfair or more inequitable than one sector of society being allowed to conjure money out of thin air and then charge interest on that money conjured out of thin air?

  6. Equity may be the new buzz word but its been around for a bit. I thought I knew what it meant. But clearly more nuanced than I thought.

    Back when tertiary education was all about widening participation the number of enrolments shot up hugely but for two groups, brown of skin, success eluded them. Measured in pass rates and course completions success for brown people was well lower than the average, in a few well-published instances, abysmally low. But in fairness, those cases were more a reflection of the providers than the students. The focus then shifted from putting bums on seats to achieving student success, both at Ministry and intuitional levels. In some high-stakes programmes institutions were accused of affirmative action by having a targeted quota but for those working at the front line achieving student success meant putting into place support for those who needed it. Resources were provided. At risk students were identified and high-achieving tuakana were identified who could provide good role models. And that experience and responsibly gave them more confidence too. It didn’t work for all because success in a tertiary context is complex, not only what the institution can provide in terms of support and what the student brings in terms of social capital and cognitive abilities, but also the existence of a curriculum that attempts to affirm the prior knowledge and identities of others, and a host of outside factors that the institution has no control over. Intergenerational poverty and the need to work beyond what most students do, for instance. So student success is not straightforward and never guaranteed.

    Did it work? For some, very much so. Did pass rates improve? In some cases, yes, in some cases no. But without the focus on equity, as I knew it, future opportunities may not have opened up for a good many. Selling it to most staff was not easy, I suspect a parallel to selling He Puapua to Pakeha New Zealand.

  7. The (slightly left leaning) Brookings Institute in the USA studied the problems of poverty at length and concluded that a child born in a ghetto had to do three things in order to automatically gain entry into the middle class. Those three things were:

    1. Finish high school
    2. Don’t get pregnant
    3. Don’t commit crime

    I’m sure it’s the same situation here. Unemployment is very low and companies are crying out for staff at all levels. A kid who kept his/her nose clean and left school with decent literacy and numeracy at just 16 would easily slot into a trade apprenticeship and within 5 years be earning more than his teacher. In ten years would be earning more than the school principle.

    It’s really not that hard!

    1. I think theDunedin study showed that good self control as early as 3 years old predicted life outcomes and good self control also predicted who avoided drugs, teenage pregnancy and criminal behaviour. Good self control (think emotion regulation plus) can be taught. A little too much permissive parenting going on. In saying that I don’t mean authoritarian parenting style Is ok at all.

      By the way some good research has shown that the effects of poverty in childhood leave lasting impacts, such as poor physical health, even if the child grows up and moves into the middle class

  8. Rather than highlighting the difference between the meaning of “equity” and “equality” as being stumbling blocks on the road to a more just society, we should instead compare “democracy” with “Democracy” – small “d” big “D”. As long as we allow Capitalism to rule the roost, as we do, and not require that its power be tempered by the principles of Democratic Socialism, neither “equity” or “equality’ will ever be achieved.

  9. The only way the govt can get the recommendations of He Puapua past the NZ public is by repeatedly denying they are being implemented. And it can only achieve this with the active collaboration of the media.
    The mainstream media have reliably shouted down politicians — most notably Collins and Seymour — whenever they have questioned its implementation.
    A classic of the genre is this interview in May by Tova O’Brien of David Seymour (which recalls the disastrous encounter between the BBC’s Cathy Newman and Jordan Peterson).
    O’Brien asks Seymour about He Puapua at the 7:44 mark:
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/05/david-seymour-wants-four-year-parliamentary-terms-but-with-a-catch.html

  10. I will say that what fairness is depends entirely on an individual’s definition of the term.

    For one person, fairness might be equal ethnic representation of Pakeha and Maori in Parliament, 6,000 Scholarships for Maori students each year, a holiday home in the Bahamas for the PM which is owned by a State corporate entity and leased out to existing PM’s for private use at a below market rate, and fuel prices which are double their current prices.

    For another person, fairness might mean that no MP’s salary exceeds $70,000 a year, that 20,000 new state houses are built each year, that people earning $35,000 and less are only taxed at eight percent, and that Inheritance Tax is introduced on all assets at a flat rate of 25 percent.

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