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  1. Back Bench pay is $160k
    That’s a lot of money to poorly skilled workers, people who have lived off benefits, people who have been assistants or researchers on Non Government Organization NGOs (which interfere in political affairs of other countries) or about the same pay for teachers, cops, health workers and other government bureaucrats who have at least reached senior management.
    But, its not a lot of money and as such, the position of MP fails to entice higher ranking and higher government or private sector bureaucrats, or enterprising entrepreneurs or other private sector business people who have risked capital to build their commercial successes and therefore annual revenue streams of in excess of $250k pa.
    $160K is not enough to entice quality people to a job where their career prospects rest in the hands of fickle voters and not the outcomes of productivity which is the reward of enterprising perspicacious private sector performance.
    As a result, the quality of most MPs is pitiful.
    In my view.
    To entice high performers to enter parliament. the pay needs to be $500k with a maximum 2 terms then out.
    Less MP’s is the key better outcomes.
    Committees are talking shops where decisions are rarely made: therefore the less the better.
    60 MPs is plenty. That’s One for about 84,000 voters.

    We disagree Dr Liz – but like you, I wont hold my breath.

    1. Ross Meurant. Agree, especially re better pay to attract high calibre people, but whether this is the sole reason for the woebegone bunch who sit in Parliament now, I don’t know – and that applies to all political parties, not just some of the current inadequate ministers.

    2. My 2 cents. Always thought the truly intelligent people are blue collar not white. Practical experience combined with paper/computer skills is the best good combo. Highly paid pencil pushers actually know fuck all and fuck everything up all the time. Head hunting these idiots will bring more of the same at higher cost. Just saying.

  2. The concept of MMP wa distroyed by Winston . I hope once he is off the scene it can progress. The 5 Maori Seats need to go as there are plenty of Maori on both sides of the fence to protect the advance of their voice .

    1. I agree Trevor

      Maori seats were created same time as seats for Miners – at a point in time when voting rights were predicated on land ownership.
      Miners did not won the land they mined.
      Maori collectively owned theirs.

      When land rights to voting were abolished, miners seats disappeared.
      Maori seats were retained.

      1. How exactly are they disadvantaged? And how does segregating them into different electoral roll help them?
        In fact the Royal Commission recommended the disbandment of the Maori seats and it is a terrible shame it wasn’t done.

  3. Parliament is like a cauldron that mixes morally virtuous individualistic people and converts them into a collection of greed filled selfish bastards who understand that enriching the MP collective is all that really matters.

  4. The opposition to the MMP campaign was an opportunity for the business sector to publicly flex their muscle and they were led by the then Chair of Telecom Peter Shirtcliffe via the Campaign for Better Government.
    I remember his rigid and condescending interview style and it only helped to push the referendum in MMP’s favour.
    I agree that we need a true “leftie” party with strong socialist leadership but with a community riven with inequity the majority of people who would support that party are just trying to survive.
    The Labour party chose no CGT or wealth tax which guaranteed an historical victory but left unbridled a property market that has disenfranchised so many and burdened others with eyewatering debt.
    The capitalist/neoliberal financial model is deeply entrenched in the establishment.
    Thank you Dr G for your contribution here and in general.
    It is much appreciated by this reader.

  5. Dr
    You are accurate re Frank Grover

    Caused trouble wherever he went: National Party guru in Hamilton once but was terminate or departed in a fit of petulance

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