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  1. If Kelvin Davis’ inertia and missteps are cabinet endorsed, then it may be necessary to approach an international forum to bring about the much needed prison reform.

  2. At what point do international organisations step in if a country is obviously on track to becoming a failed state?

    1. I don’t think they can or do just step in, unless there’s something in it for them (aka the USA) like oil, strategic sea routes and so on. At the time New Zealanders were trying to get the National government to investigate atrocities perpetrated upon innocent Afghanistan peasants up in the Hindu Kush, there was talk of approaching a UN organisation, or the International Court of Justice ( in The Hague I think) , but I gather it may not have been easily feasible. We are obliged by various international treaties and agreements to behave like decent human beings, and the best that we may be able to hope for may be having sanctions imposed upon us if we violate them, as we seem to be doing with our disgraceful prison system.

  3. Yes the prisons need to be reformed but so does the entire justice system need an overhaul and its a bloody big job that won’t happen overnight.

  4. Liz, you are right about prison reform. Theres only a few major considerations that you touch on: safety for everyone concerned is highest.

    Locking people up for punitive purposes seems ridiculously counter productive.

    Locking up people for the safety of the public is absolutely necessary.

    How we achieve this I dont know.

  5. Then there was the case, back in court for sentencing last week, of the 18 year old who was double bunked with a violent sexual predator. Was he put in with that predator because he was isolated and ‘in denial’ about his own offending, as some have suggested? As a form of punishment for non-compliance? I doubt if we will ever know.

    “I doubt if we will ever know.”

    Isn’t that what the justice system is supposed to do????? If a teenager was raped in prison then the police should be even more vigilant in making sure that these were not deliberate acts by prison officials.

    This follows on crimes against teenagers within the justice system itself. Or outside the justice system aka Roast busters.

    Time people under 24 were housed in separate prisons for youth aimed at rehabilitation in particular when on remand.

    And while we are about it, solve the educational and social problems which would help stem youth turning to crime in the first place!

    Funny how sleeping brought/ homelessness was solved during Covid no problem, hotels were found for them!

    Gang involvement growing 13% a year!

    Social problems from Meth and other drugs is now massive in NZ. Funny how those benefiting from those crimes (aka money launderers) seem to be minimised in NZ, and even actively encouraged to live in NZ like Sroubek (Gang connections, immigration fraud and drug smuggling). Part of the type of new citizen NZ is encouraging to live here to exploit others any way they can.

  6. The way NZ deals with crime seems to be related to wealth and that is a big problem! AKA vunerable towns do not get police resources unless someone in the police is particularly tenacious. Government have developed a system that does not work, they need to focus on the entire problem big and small, all locations in NZ, perpetrators and victims simultaneously.

    Frustrated emails from Kawerau constable to Police Commissioner Mike Bush led to downfall of Mongrel Mob president Frank Milosevic in Operation Notus drug bust
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/frustrated-emails-from-kawerau-constable-to-police-commissioner-mike-bush-led-to-downfall-of-mongrel-mob-president-frank-milosevic-in-operation-notus-drug-bust/2HZNRHTJLE2P4QZ4XKEJ5I4CUI/

    The police officer’s on the ground should be supported to solve crimes from their leaders, not have to go through complicated hierarchical hoops to help their communities.

  7. Good item Liz.

    Kelvin will never be capable of improving the Corrections system. It needs someone with determination and ideas who is prepared to challenge the status quo. One of the many challenges will be to change the “culture” within the department. They are fixated on security, with preventing reoffending way down the priority list (in spite of what they say).

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