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  1. Disturbing that the ERO assesses the Gloriavale school on its own terms so it escapes the rigorous scrutiny with all the critirea it normally applies.Our taxes support these children being brainwashed into a wacky cult. The possibilities of these official practices being extended to support dubious politics – what about indoctrination into Nazi propaganda? The ‘lockdown’ training could be a step in that direction.If I sound alarmist Liz Gordon’s criticisms do fill me with alarm.

  2. While I understand some of the author’s concerns, when did education become about the needs of the teacher rather than the needs of the child? I was always taught to “…make it about them, not about you”. yet so much of the dialogue recently has been about individual adult’s views of what is good for our kids. Good parenting should be about knowing when to draw that line. About when to allow kids to explore, learn, problem-solve and experience for themselves.

    Should we promote guns – definitely not. Should we endorse those that do – No. Are guns a part of our society – yes they are. Is gun safety not a responsible topic – yes it is.

    Increasingly in our society we are seeing examples of broken people taking up arms and threatening our communities. There are more examples of childcare centres being foced by Police into lockdown than I care to think about. It happens. Being prepared is essential.

  3. My kids had armed hold up training at their schools starting about 2010. It was kept fairly quiet.

  4. Agree 100% with Dr Liz Gordon, it’s an outrage.

    One of the big trends in children is anxiety. Being told again and again safety messages that schools seem to be compelled to do by government, in my mind is a big trigger for anxiety.

    The next biggest danger is obesity. Children are now encouraged to ‘stay safe’ by not exploring their environment and possibly hurting themselves and being discouraged to ‘free range’ in any capacity whether at school or outside of school. Bizarrely they are so worried about health and safety of everyday hazards but risks like playing Rugby and other sports is fine! It’s a complete double standard!

    I’d like to see the health and safety laws changed so that they prosecute Pike River executives that kill 29 people in a death trap, while reduce the stupidity of health and safety that forces a massive amount of liability on teachers and schools whose job and budgets should be 99% focused on education. Teaching common sense is a big way to avoid accidents.

    Some preschool recently has to fill out a 29 page report about health and safety before taking kids out to a park. They identified a ‘prickly’ tree as a hazard and had to seal it off. It’s ridiculous! Children are going to encounter ‘prickly trees’ so might as well get used to them – focusing on everyday normal hazards should not be the schools main issue on every trip!

    The world is not that dangerous a place and the biggest danger will be them driving/biking/walking to school due to a traffic accident or playing sports all of which are outside of the health and safety.

    As for public money teaching the more ‘cult like’ private schools should not be allowed. All kids in NZ should be going to mainstream schools and if they have a special charter (like religion) all good, BUT they have to also get a prescribed state education so they have a choice in what to believe.

  5. I placed a comment here, and I wish to know why it was not published.
    (political reasons will be keenly heard. As will any other criticisms ..
    (of said comment))

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