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  1. is it a case of the government wont step in or the government can’t step in cause our sate services systems may be set up in such a way so our government cant intervene sometimes this is actually detrimental to who they are suppose to be helping

    1. Correct, Michelle. Most of these systems are structured so that the govt cannot step in. This is done because govt’s primary concern is to help itself.

      The Starship Hospital little boy’s life being saved was due 100% to the wisdom and pluck of his mother disagreeing with the health professionals and requesting an xray. I say ‘pluck” because Mama was in a systemically intimidating situation where many people would hesitate to disagree or speak up, but she didn’t.

      The hospital’s craven self-serving response is an absolute disgrace, and hopefully they will be called to account.

  2. underfunding and lots of undermining was done on purpose by national so was holding up the OIAs all intended and all part of a poorly thought out economic plan that created more inequalities and social deviseness in our communities

    1. Not really, Michelle. Under-funding was part of a cunningly-thought out plan by the National Govt as part of an agenda to privatise and/or flog off various health services to the private sector.

      Don’t forget that if Bill English had had his way, a night’s stay in a hospital could have had public hospital patients paying $50 per night for such hospital stays. And these are the patients who can least afford it, because others have work, or private health insurance schemes.These are non-rich people – aka poor, because that’s how capitalism works.

      At least three previous health dept/public hospital services have been flogged off to PHO’s, or totally terminated. I never kept track, but one was The Quit Line, and the service which stopped altogether was the physiotherapy clinic for MS patients at Hutt Hospital.

      1. Payment for public hospital services was implemented some time ago but met with strong resistance.
        I was billed $75 for attending an eye consultation that I tried to cancel but was told I had to attend the clinic to cancel it or I would be charged a not attending fee.
        I attended to cancel , had no consultation and was still charge $75 which I did not pay.

        Bay Corp chased me for months and I invited then to take me to court and warned of action and damages claims if I was harassed by any action by them to alter my credit ratings.

        A change of Govt saw the scheme dropped

        DHBs are a move to effectively corporatise Health and divide the sector. Both well known neo liberal moves on the path to full privatisation by stealth.

        The investor state extracts billions out of NZ each year which becomes unavailable for circulation in NZ so no further tax is harvested from that money.

  3. yes I know all about acc under the instructions of the national governments were told to get people of their books and many were denied their entitlements by paid acc health professionals who told them their injury was degenerative so what is the point of us paying acc levies when they are doing this and how many poor people did they kick in the guts with this mean policy. Paula rebstock was employed primarily to do this nasty piece of work and paid handsomely she ended up in big trouble withal her bullshert but she was doing the national parties dirty work

  4. Do not understand why we have all the District Health Boards, we are only 5 million people what a waste of resources, won’t even mention the clowns they employ ?

  5. I hear so many stories of professional negligence in NZ hospitals, it is not funny.

    I have experienced it myself having to have two major operations in 2 days, plus 2 x blood transfusions due to hopeless doctors and nurses not following standard procedures.

  6. Before ever I want to hear “Sorry” I want the problem fixed at core. For me “Sorry” is worthless.

    I get it that the word has value for others. They give it significance.

    Remorse and regret seem to work better on a person to person base. Not between a person and an agency, though. The person saying the word may have had no part of the harming.

    If many people were involved in the harming – whose “Sorry” carries most weight? How is it delivered? Where’s the sincerity and change of heart, ways, delivery?

    “Sorry” as a word is trite. Where’s the action? The remedy? The evidence of contrition?

    Forcing people to say sorry is a waste of time. If it doesn’t come with sincere contrition, empathy with the distress caused, the recognition of abuse of authority and power – then the situation will repeat.

    You need something else when it comes to institutions. “Sorry” is the wrong word – until it’s followed by, “I have the power and will to fix this. I pledge to get it sorted within the next few months and I’ll invite you to see what we’ve done for you and any others we’ve hurt through the ways we’ve been. I will not move on until this wrong has been righted.”

    Otherwise it’s as sincere as a curt passing ‘sorry’ from someone who jostled you in a crowd.

    Is that all you’re wanting?

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