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  1. Jolly good Chippie, I see David Parker is in Siberia still so it is business as usual by the looks of it, though Willie gets MSD which is good.

    There is policy coming apparently-and mark my words it better contain terms like Wealth Tax, Capital Gains Tax, Free Dental and Public Transport-or the lot of you may as well head back to your Wellington flats and watch Netflix.

    1. Is that the Wellington flat Bill English double dipped and stole from the taxpayer ?

  2. It’s all very worthy until this: “I’ve tasked Barbara with making sure we’re ready to balance the books…”
    Oh no – the old myth that government is like a household in terms of financial management. That’s the millstone that will stop Chippie doing those other worthy things he mentions. Anyway – go Chippie. Perhaps it’s just sensible PR to repeat the myth of the household analogy, because virtually everyone he was talking to in that room actually believes it’s true?

    1. It’s a direct signal that he’s not serious about doing anything good.

  3. If Hipkins looks to Australia he will see Labour losing support if he looks to UK he will see Labour’s popularity dropping like a stone.
    Labour makes good promises but they are not great at keeping them. Without covid they would have lost in 2020 and they only won I 2017 because Winston was cross at National

    1. Australia and the UK Labour will be re-elected because of their brilliant policies, much to your right wing dislike.

  4. Too many words drowned out anything remotely useful. State Of The Nation addresses are just pure gut rot, an attempt to sell your boring old self instead of an attempt to capture lost voters. Despite a pathetic incumbent mob, there’s nothing on the horizon that they need to bother themselves with….meaning even more shyt ahead for most of us. Fark me.

  5. Chris, here are some questions that need answering ASAP. Otherwise your speech is just waffle

    How will you raise living standards and boost incomes across New Zealand?

    And more importantly, how much of an increase are suggesting?

    How much will you lower power bills by?

    How will you build an economy that ends the reliance on trickle-down?

    How will you ensure growth doesn’t depend on jobs that are low paid and insecure?

    How will you ensure more warm, dry, and affordable homes in the places people want to live?

    What amount do you deem affordable?

    How will you make rentals a place where tenants can put down roots?

    How do you plan to deliver us health care we can rely on?

    How long before we see this economic plan you speak of?

    What are you going to do for pensioners and those unable to work?

    Will Māori and Pasifika who don’t want kaupapa Māori and Pasifika approaches to care still be eligible for standard care?

    1. Inflation is being driven by a number of things. We can’t really go after housing prices the way I would prefer it’s just not politically advisable. So chippy is going after energy prices inflation.

      But where I would advise chippy go after property prices is commercial property prices which got kicked in the balls after corona hasn’t recovered after getting kicked in the balls again by inflation and underpins chippies whole tech innovation. Bolster wages then the economy should be fine.

      Now, that doesn’t mean a global recession is impossible – Europe is in bad shape due to sluggish COVID recovery and Suez-related shipping issues, China has the real estate and demographic troubles we are see the top of the Chinese boom, and Japan is going through a recession due to currency issues – but it most likely won’t be driven by economic troubles in New Zealand and honestly what I’m hearing from chippy “if true” will limit how bad it can get in NZ.

      Given the US is still the global economic engine there really isn’t a way of disconnecting militarily. At least where commercial property is concerned. So, basically a lot of New Zealand. And unfortunately there have been a few engeneering studies done that showed those building cant even be converted to residential apartments. maybe a few high end units per floor, maybe, but not high density.

      I’ll add the Chinese issues. Diary needs to be repurposed. Look we cant decouple from trade. But we can repurpose trade and tourism. Again we can have Bougie upmarket. But not high density.

      The global consensus is cautious and optimistic but the issues still remain. There’s still a war in Europe which risks breaking out into the middle east and south east Asia and south pacific.

      The idea that we can turn New Zealands economy around is how do I say…, “optimistic.” We just aren’t talking correctly. We are just way to hell bent on undermining each other.

      “The economy going to the wall because people can’t get a mortgage is the least coherent economic argument.”- that’s me being charitable. We have to start treating China and America the same as Wikipedia. It’s not a legitimate source of information let alone trade links. You just can’t learn anything from nations that puts the full cost of health and education on a single consumer.

      Economics is a frighteningly complicated discipline and anyone who predicts with certainty is in a position to make a ton of money. Most most mostly most people can not make accurate predictions much less people who just started talking economics and that’s assuming the metrics don’t get revised making it seem like you were never in a recession to begin with.

      There are significant costs that are as yet unaccounted for. And the costs that are accounted for are delayed or pushed out into the future. I mean if it’s not adapting to climate change then whatever money you do spend will disappear with all of the icebergs.

      Chippie probably has less of an economics degree than I do but those questions you listed has and I’m not having a go at you but those questions have even less ideas. If we can fix Labours energy and housing policies then there health education and defence policies will be in a much better position which leaves commercial properties the only dark spot but as far as a recession it ought not spill over into other areas especially if one or more other nations start heating up.

      Moving New Zealand onto a development footing will call out to those fleeing New Zealand. We can attack your list of issues individually but we’ve got to give ourselves time to retool and upskill our own otherwise we’ll just be calling out for fruit pickers and tourists and those sectors have already been maxed out.

      This generation is way to innovative. Most of us remember a time without cell phones this generation expect things to appear on demand they can’t handle 10 to 20 year turn arounds they need innovation every three weeks and if they can’t get the innovation in NZ then they just take off. But in any case I wouldn’t read to much into your questions corona prices are way to volatile for that. But you can make the case for these are the problems that need solutions. There’s not much direct cash injections can do to lower prices.

      The supply chain issues have already happened. They’re real and there isn’t much New Zealand can do to fix global supply chain issues. The real issue is kiwis having to pay more for the same things that have been run down for the last 80 years and alternative costings is typically more expensive.

      We need a pipeline of technologies that this and the next generation can utilise unsupervised. Kids now days are utilising 3D printers to manufacture things we used to buy from the warehouse but at way lower prices. Look retail is just going to get kicked in from all sides. Even manufactures from abroad are offering free shipping.

      To summarise all of the orthodox economic stimulus packages have been burnt out already in an effort to lock generations of kiwis out of the family home. Giving the wealthy more money absolutely gets them spending more, which gets more money flowing, which benefits the poor, but it’s possibly the least effective way of doing it. It worked for Regan because taxes were much higher, although thise figures are almost always inaccurate relative to what people pay. And most importantly because demand was depressed due to financial scarcity. Trickle down works when the people who get handed money have wanted to spend money but been unable to. It doesn’t work if they already have all the money they need.

      If you want to make Trickle Down actually work you need to incentivize spending instead of just handing people additional money.

  6. The Herald is already failing. Can’t see this speech or even a summary there today.
    Stuff wants us to pay to see their article. Don’t know if it’s the whole thing.

    Interesting to hear about the audience with lots of blue shirts present. Were their ears numb by the end of it?

    Of course, it’s all very idealistic but it’s a broad plan.
    No-one was referred to as a bottom feeder which was refreshing.
    No-one was spoken down to or told they’d better organise their CV, get out of bed, eat their marmite sammies, go to the interview and behave themselves.
    No-one was told that because they weren’t born with a silver spoon in their mouths, they had no right to expect anything actually. The freebies were for landlords and deserving people in Epsom and Tamaki.

    Showing respect for people is the first test which the present govt. failed immediately. I knew that ‘bottom feeder’ comment would come back to haunt them.
    It’s not as if the results of their governing makes up for any stupidity.

  7. Notably absent- what anyone with a left wing bone in their body would promise, which is to reverse Luxon’s unpopular policies as rapidly as possible under urgency.

    1. Chris actually suggested otherwise when he said this below:

      “And I can assure you we aren’t going to spend our first year back in government pausing, cancelling, and reviewing everything.”

      I’m guessing that will disappoint many

  8. Sorry Christopher. You had your chance and you blew it. Time to go. . .

  9. First Chris says:

    “I’m not interested in an economy where one part of the country races ahead of the rest.”

    Then goes on to say:

    I know that Auckland’s success will be New Zealand’s success. That’s why I’ve asked my deputy, Carmel Sepuloni, to take on the Auckland Issues portfolio and make it her major focus.

  10. This rabble government will be long gone by 2026. They have systematically pulled Aotearoa to pieces just because they could and to spite the Labour government and the people who voted them in are also paying the price just like the rest of us and it’s shameful

  11. “for the one and a half million people who rent, we will support you to make your rented property a home,”

    If this meant making NZ egalitarian again by bringing the home ownership rate back up to 90% it would be a great speech.

    It seems to mean we will support you to get your head around the fact we aren’t going to run an economy in which you can become a home owner. Thirty percent of you will remain subject to the rentier, we will just alleviate it a bit until the next govt of landlords by landlords for landlords washes in on the next tide.

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