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  1. We have bet all our chips on America and it would be extremely difficult to change towards neutrality- besides, for the US neutrality = enemy. They will not accept neutrality. The Sinophobia being whipped up by the media over the last few years has been extraordinary. Hooten talks about “China’s imperialist ambitions” – name them! Taiwan? Invaded and settled by the Nationalists upon their defeat by Mao in 1949, and renamed Taiwan, it had been a province of China since 1683, with a period of Japanese occupation in the early 1900’s. Tibet? Ok, anywhere else? Now let’s look at the close to 100 regime change operations of the US since WWII and the millions of deaths as a result of their ‘Nation building’ escapades. Who is the imperialist? Any country who challenges the US politically, economically and/or has resources they desire, is subject to covert regime change (CIA) and, if unsuccessful, overt regime change in the form of military intervention. So the real question is: Do you support a multi polar or unipolar world for your future security? Put this in the context of US governments of the last 40 years (or longer) and the current US regime.

  2. Australia is America’s new ‘Pearl Harbour’

    https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/australia-could-soon-be-hosting-nuclear-armed-us-submarines/

    At the outbreak of war between the US and China, Australia would be first place the Chinese would need to flatten.

    So of course the Chinese need to test their ability to project their power into this region, and test their logistics and weapons systems and military deployment so far from home.

    Neither America or China want to fight major land battles on their home territories.
    In the age of AI precision guided hypersonic missiles and fleets of cheap attack drones, aircraft carrier surface fleets are now obsolete sitting ducks.
    The new war to control the Pacific region will be fought from below the waves.

    In preparation for the coming war for control of the South Pacific region, successive Australian governments have let their country be turned into a strategic forward staging ground for America’s sub-sea nuclear fleet.

    It must be a big relief, especially for the Americans, that in the event of war, Australia rather than California, or Hawaii would be China’s most important strategic chess piece to target to take out of the war.

    The US and China don’t need to go to war near their home territories, their militaries can fight it out down here instead.

  3. Given our geographic position as an Island nation we need to protect our shoreline. Surface patrol vessels are easy targets but submarines are more elusive and unintrusive. I support heavily investing in an armed naval submarine capability that regularly patrols our economic zone. If an attack was to be made on Australia or in the Tasman/Pacific we would be able to retaliate quicker and more effectively.

    1. Why on earth would we care if hostile American bases in Australia were taken out?

      That would unquestionably be good for New Zealand’s security. Same as if the bases in Nelson and Harewood and Mahia got taken out.

      1. Who mentioned Australia? Those NZ bases just require a realignment. We can have our own submarines for our own purposes which can be environmental as well as military.

  4. “ And when anyone points out the brutal repression of the Uyghurs, the NZ Woke go very quiet because they aren’t sure who to scream at until they’ve checked their hierarchy of victimhood.”

    Okay that was funny

  5. Shit Trump might give rocket lab a few nuclear war heads to sick on a few rockets to be launched from a mobile site anywhere in NZ .tHAT MIGHT BE THE BEST WAY TO BECOME A NUTRAL COUNTRY .Im sure we could buy some from another supplier and away we go and we would not need to invest another cent on defence .Instead we could spend 4 billion per year in fixing the poverty problem that is nz .

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