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  1. I don’t think the bitter division within the Maori party equals *the Left* being bitterly divided – it’s cofined to a minor party and the two bigger left leaning parties (greens and labour) are showing unity. Nonetheless, it is a concern if many would-be labour or green voters are internalizing right wing erroneous messaging/propaganda that the opposition itself is bitterly divided, and ironic given division within the coalition (like NZ first not supporting National-ACT on India trade deal).

  2. Two big problems with the Westminster system are
    1. It is a system of winners and losers. That means that there is an inbuilt impetus towards conflict rather than collaboration, which affects Maori operating within the system as much as anyone.
    2. No one claiming authority within the system can offer proof of legitimacy. The ballot is conducted in secret, and even if we accept that the election is conducted with integrity the actual and continuing mandate of any member of parliament is purely a matter of political conjecture. Thus we have no real evidence for how much support there is for Rawiri and Debbie on the one hand or Mariameno and Takuta on the other. Under rangatiratanga such matters would be transparent. We would know exactly who is supporting Rawiri and Mariameno at the present moment and in light of recent events. If that was the situation, then it is most likely that the present conflict would never have arisen. Each individual leader would be secure in his or her own support base, and would be naturally respectful of the support belonging to another.
    If Te Pati Maori collapses it will be confirmation that European systems of governance are not a good fit with Maori principles of rangatiratanga, and since rangatiratanga is clearly a superior system of governance, it would be not a bad thing if these ructions led to Maori withdrawing from engagement with the Westminster system altogether.

  3. gordon your obvious low level intelligence rules you out from commenting on anything. Take a break there’s a good chap .

    1. With your lack of any intelligence Robert the first, it’s time you take your hand off it and give it a rest. Take a break simple Bob.

    1. And be replaced by whom with what track record? Please explain as we all need enlightenment on this. We are all worried about the future. What causes you to be so sanguine?

  4. FGS Labour/Greens wake up. There is so much ammunition out there to capitalise on, that shows this CoC are like a rudderless ship. Get your staff to regularly raise the roof and insist our media play fairer [ha ha] but just keep banging on about that. Voters are sick of the knee-jerking, fast-tracking, the blame game, the biased focus on the ‘sorted’ and the utter chaos the top feeders and this CoC have inflicted on NZ. You don’t have to look far to find a myriad of damning factors.

  5. Dear @ Maori. As an old white Southland farmer I’ll write; for fucks sake don’t let the Treaty out of your sight.
    Now. About that public, royal commission of inquiry up, into and around every single atom of the 90 year old con job that’s our national party economy and the private and political criminal elite who were and are the enablers of it.

  6. How quickly the dumb middle class voters forget how they have been fucked over .Winston and the river of filth party will score more hate voters just like One nation in Aus has done and the real racists in the other parties will jump into the hate waka and paddle like fuck to help him out .
    While all that is going on the dumb voters will be getting stripped of even more of the small amount they have left .
    Hang your heads in shame dumb arses and regret what you are going to subject what you are doing to your kids and grand kids as their future is bleak .

    1. Well done Gordon you have learnt from the Greens how to insult people and push them away from your core believe because they are not as bright as you . Keep this up the more you push into the Right camp the better.

      1. The right are horrid, and as Ive mentioned before expect more from the hard right wing Newstalk ZB to attack the left like you do Trev…

        Seems the right wing shill 2 plus 3 =6 Allen has a grudge and no interest in the environment. Fuck her ugly bias politics…

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/labour-cosying-up-to-the-greens-makes-them-look-desperate-heather-du-plessis-allan/premium/KQSYHY5WQZDTRIBIFGPEWIM54Y/

        Now tell us how desperate National is cosying up with two horrid right wing parties. And perhaps do stories on a flagging economy, record numbers to Australia and a low wage economy. But then she’s not paid by her masters to tell yhe truth.