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  1. I look at people younger than myself and am struck by their cheerful acceptance of a commitment-free world, their seeming comfort with an era in which most things, including employment, are provisional and almost certainly impermanent. They know they have to live off their wits, and rely on their skills, that they are to be granted very little.

    Meanwhile, private retirement providers of the old age industry are receiving substantial support. A full 25 per cent of growth in Super contributions to the nations savings pool from 2020 to 2025 will go to private-sector providers. One thing to remember is that private providers are not asked to provide the same communal facilities as a District Health Board, they face less stringent accountability requirements, and are not asked to provide support for retirees in housing, counselling and life in old age.

    The old age industry is, of course, maintained primarily as a government responsibility. But the government can be accomplished schumcks.

    The elderly (and this is not a matter of sentiment, or of misplaced egalitarianism) the Australian and Singapore economies saved their way to early retirements in the second half of the twentieth century and global prosperity totalling over 4 trillion in retirement savings the highest in the world for just 30 million people. For New Zealand to prosper, we must have a single retirement system, a system which can identify skills and plan for a population that is living longer as living standards climb higher.

  2. On the immigration debate, the massive change is the number of migrant pensioners now on super.

    “The number of Māori aged 65+ will more than double (from 48,500 to 109,400) between 2018 and 2034, as will the senior Pacific population (from 21,300 to 46,700), while the number of senior Asian New Zealanders will almost triple (from 59,500 to 171,900).”

    (The amount of senior Asian NZer’s is expected to be more than the number of aged Maori and Pacific Islander’s combined within a decade, by design not natural population growth!)

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12281479

    What idiot policy increases aged migration to a country that is aging and can’t afford it unless the lower services like health care, pensions etc!

    https://croakingcassandra.com/2019/10/14/reopening-parent-visas/

    Part of the issue is that our news and officials just won’t mention Asian pensioner demand is rising so much. Our laws have allowed the world’s pensioners to come to NZ, only live here for 10 years (used to be 5 years) and not have ever had to pay any tax in NZ at all, to get a STATE pension. (often while telling NZ to work harder, put the pension age up as we can’t afford it, means test it, now not give it to those who work past the pension age (possibly because they need the money!). This is the biggest routs of the pension and the pension debate aka the biggest rise of usage is not mentioned at all.

    Woke and all the officials never mention the rise in migrant pensioners who did not have to live in NZ long or pay into it while targeting everyone else as to blame.

    Bizarrely the new campaign seems to be tax payers who are still working and paying taxes should not get it (because they earn to much) and the inocome less migrant pensioner who often live in million dollar accomodation in Auckland anyway, does!

    Something’s wrong!

    News is now propaganda. I have zero respect for either the Listener (stopped buying it years ago) and certainly not RNZ in the last year they have become woke and stupid. Their opinions are not just disguised as news, but are actually propaganda as you say to frame a generational war on those that paid the taxes in the first place and keep the migrant gravy train rolling in.

    Gen X are also in the hot seat. What do you do? Just give up of work and hope that the pension is still there and you receive it, or work harder save, only to find out that your hard work mens you no longer qualify for state pension because you earn too much. All while our propaganda refuses to mention that many migrants who just got here are contributing ZERO get it and didn’t live in NZ most of their lives to boot! But our news covers it up!

    It’s yet another neoliberal brainwashing exercise, like user pays education, trickle down, etc

    Guess what, that approach will terminate left politics and that is what the woke and right wingers want.

    Goodbye left politics (what is left of it) because if your taxes are not guaranteed to provide taxpayers with social services anymore while our government gives the money away to others who don’t pay them.

    Aka increasingly middle NZ won’t pay taxes and support governments that make people pay them for Rio Tinto and Rich migrant pensioners who are never mentioned in the rants about whose fault poverty is and where the public money is being diverted to and it ain’t the tax payers or people/businesses who have lived most of their lives in the country.

  3. I stopped listening to National Radio about 15 years ago, when NR was giving high profile to climate-change-denying idiots and energy-illiterate fools. It is, after all, a mouthpiece for business-as–usual.

  4. Chris makes essential points and brings sense to the discussion on old age pensions (comfortably called superannuation).   Sam makes good points too.   One point Chris makes is about the Interim Retirement Commissioner laying  the groundwork for some sensible thinking before the new woman sweeps her broom.  Will she be like the past one who sounded like Mrs Grundy* from next door, preaching cutting down and austerity,  without looking hard at the figures as Chris, and the informed man Peter Cordtz, have done. 

    The latest pronouncements were preceded by an opinion article by Peter Cordtz in Spinoff October 2019
    https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/11-10-2019/as-our-population-ages-is-it-time-for-a-new-tax-on-high-earning-superannuitants/

    Some of my thoughts and perceptions about Superannuation.   A lot of people sigh with relief when they get there because it is certain.    The preceding years before 65 have left them scraping and scratching, going from pillar to post getting short-term jobs and dealing with the maze of Mr and Mrs Grundy’s at WINZ at each turn.
    Then I have got to the age of perception to understand what money is, and we can afford to QE to fund super for all.  Which brings to the next point, that super helps to keep money flowing around NZ, and helps NZ business. pays wages and NZ workers.    A sort of fuel that gets pumped into the economy and then produces those wonderful multipliers resulting in it being part of two or three more purchases with resulting employment advantages, before its heft disappears.  

    Then comes the matter of the uncounted economic benefits of unpaid work.    If all super recipients apart from the comatose, put in at least a few hours work for their district, as many do, that would help to firm the fabric of NZ society which at present has gaping holes untended.

    * Mrs Grundy is a figurative name for an extremely conventional or priggish person, a personification of the tyranny of conventional propriety. A tendency to be overly fearful of what others might think is sometimes referred to as grundyism. Wikipedia

  5. Is Super just another benefit? Many would say it is, if it is, then it should be subject to proper means testing like other benefits are. Even if it’s not classified as a benefit it should still be means tested to weed out those who don’t NEED it. I work with 3 gentleman who are very very wealthy by NZ standards, all in their 70’s and are happy to work for shit money cause they certainly don’t need it.
    Wealthy people double dipping is shit. This is the old entitlement thing again. Also all these oldies are taking jobs off young’uns. Boomers once again.

    1. GreenBus
      There is an advantage to universality – everyone receives, and everyone is supposed to be paying tax to provide the country with a fair and balanced welfare system. It wasn’t decided as a system by Santa Claus, but by thoughtful planners with degrees in social policy and economics. If it isn’t working now may be because there are too many among the wealthy who are getting skyhigh returns on everything the work at, and then there are large numbers who have been told to live in holes in the ground and are not paid properly for whatever work they can manage to get. So that is what should be changed and then the proportion getting large incomes plus super, end up paying large tax and still having everything their hearts desire. And the strugglers out there if they can get work, and have a reasonable life, and somewhere to live, and some perks from the state that encourage them to keep on the straight and narrow, would have a system that doesn’t produce so much waste – of human life.

      1. Everyone’s entitled to their own opinions. I think you come across as a slightly entitled snob. Having a good life are? Good for you. On behalf of us peasants, can I ask for some crumbs to make me happy. I’m not a tax expert although it would seem the propertied boomers I’m talking about taking jobs from our young people, (who bloody well need them) have creamed it by NOT paying tax on their capital gains.

  6. RNZ is a feminist channel now with imported BBC outcasts and Natiional party sypathisers.

    I havbe ceased watching RNZ and the listener so I seek to surf the social media now and foriegn channels to get some balance.

    1. “I have ceased WATCHING RNZ ” Lol. Mind you, it’s preferable to listening to NATIONAL Radio.

  7. Somehow I missed the RNZ story of wealthy earners getting Super. I switched off some time ago. Bravo Chris.
    Linking this RNZ manufactured ‘non story’ ( fake ) to the ‘unfairness’ of the universality of Super represents a media Neoliberal bias and masks the stealthy theft of future Super from young Kiwis that are currently contributing right now! RNZ has gone rogue – under a NZF Labour lead Government lol

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