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  1. I think there’s more to this story than at first appears, but yes, they probably should have just told her not to come back.

    1. +1 COSMICRAY.

      It seems obvious if you think a volunteer is stealing you just ask them to leave rather than a court case over $20?

      And it is not even clear she was stealing!!

      Stupid case, makes Sally’s look bad.

  2. Ravlich should be fired.

    Where the hell is Christianity now???????

    This sends me a sad message as Salvation Army is mostly donated items and low or free staffed so Salvation Army should repent and apologise to Sophie and NZ for this trivia.

    1. I know nothing about this case, but I was told first hand by a supervisor in another Christian charity shop that volunteers helping themselves to the best donated items is quite common.

  3. Cleangreen says “Where the hell is Christianity now???????

    This sends me a sad message as Salvation Army is mostly donated items and low or free staffed so Salvation Army should repent and apologise to Sophie and NZ for this trivia.”
    The Sally Army makes a huge amount of money from donated goods; I should know because I donate and I buy from them. I always thought that whatever the circumstances behind this, if someone takes something they needed it more than me. If they didn’t take it and they have donated volunteer time what the hell is the issue.

    I share donations between Sally Army, IHC, SPCA, School gala days, St Johns. The moment money becomes more important than people or animals I stop donating to that place.

  4. Sallies would have lost credibility and donations as a consequence of this petty act, that would dwarf the alleged $20 hiest.

    If that is what they do to volunteers / helpers, customers beware.

  5. Petty, Petty, Petty, tight-sphinctered supervisor with no Christianity in sight. I’d rather give my stuff to someone sitting on the street than this uncharitable lot. And they try to drag you into their homophobic religion as if they had consciences! Phooey!

  6. The Salvation Army does some excellent work highlighting poverty in NZ. But they are very challenging people to actually deal with.
    My ‘local’ throws out a good percentage of the books donated. Unfortunately that means everything ‘old’. So Danielle Steels they keep. Something possibly worth $1000’s…or even $20, well that’s straight to the bin.

    The kicker is, they INSIST on doing this. We’re a second hand dealer, they could make good money of us (and yes, we would make even better money) but NO, they would rather throw the books out, make nothing, and in fact end up paying for disposal. We couldn’t even tempt them by offering to help them single out the better books that they could sell for more than 50 cents. Yet they take the donation, rather than directing the books somewhere else.

    and then, more importantly, there’s this
    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/05/02/uk-salvation-army-chief-defends-ban-on-gay-members/

    So for this reason, and a bunch of other issues, the thought of having the Salvation Army as a big landlord of social housing…yeah…no thanks.

    1. One of the consequences of insecure housing and over-crowding is that people often find themselves having to get rid of stuff. So we donate it to op-shops, assuming that this is a good way to keep it out of landfill, and redistribute it to other low-income people who might need or value it. Sadly, because they have to process so much stuff, and have limited storage space (and limited knowledge of what is valuable to who), a lot of stuff ends up in the landfill anyway.

      I’ve thought a lot about how it would be valuable to have council-funded waste consultants who can build up detailed databases of who can rehome what kinds of things most effectively in a specific locality or region. That way, people could consult these databases when getting rid of houseloads of stuff, rather than just dumping it all on op shops who don’t have the resources to deal with it all effectively.

      More ambitious would be a bylaw that allows disused warehouses to be used gratis for temporary storage and sorting of re-usable stuff. Or a levy on any commercial product being imported into a region, collected by the regional councils, and used to fund recycling and re-use projects (a lot of which have been defunded under the NatACTs).

    2. An interesting link Siobhan.

      Of course I’m old enough to remember the Sallies’ tough stance against Fran Wilde’s homosexual law reform.

      That’s when I realised the true nature of conservative Christianity.

      I’ve had nothing to do with them ever since…

  7. Obviously you every single detail of the case which of course we don’t but one fact that is beyond a shadow of a doubt is of course that it is not the Salvation Army who have brought this in front of the Courts but the Police. Now they may not know as much as you either but if there is blame to be laid here then it should probably be at their door

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