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  1. It is ridiculous that there are state houses worth millions showing a poor return on investment when money is needed to upgrade other homes owned by the state .State houses should be the standard to hold all rentals against .

    1. Yes heaven forbid that poor people get to live anywhere with access to good schools, quiet neighborhoods etc? The way Chris and Nicola are crashing the economy they won’t be worth millions soon so that will solve the problem.
      How can it be a poor return on investment when the state would have paid very little for the property many years ago and they are worth millions now? If it was a private investor doing it you would say that they were an excellent investment and borrow against them to get more property. This is just another way for private capital to get prime property on the cheap and reduce the value of public assets.

      1. They expect the poor to live in the ghettos and there are less ghetto areas now because the national party knocked many down and they also sold land a lot of the state housing land and built apartments worth 800k. This is a party bereft of ideas, so they resort to the same old.

    2. It is also ridiculous to subsidise landlords and to have given tax cuts when that money could have been wisely spent elsewhere. Now this CoC is cutting costs to services most in need. That is idiocy.

    3. What do you mean poor return on investment? If you have a family living in a state house that is exact return on investment you are expecting – the goal is acheived – a family housed. Many of these houses, over 90 years old and have housed generations of families an excellent return on the original investment.

      And back in the day before so called market rents the state houses were leverage for the government to stop landlords ramping rents, dragging private rents lower, fighting inflation.

      And if the land is in Remuera then it’s simply a valueable asset on the govt balance sheet for the government to loan or print against.

      And why would the govt ever consider selling. Remember the first rule of Property Investors Federation club “Never Sell Land”.

  2. When English was finance minister he demanded that K O pay the government 100 million a year dividend so he could balance his budget .What the fuck ?why would a government housing provider pay a dividend when they are a social provider not a commercial land lord .Clearly this is what Bishop and Moutter are trying to return to .That 100 million per year for the 8 years English was in charge would have built a shit load of new houses .K O has billions of dollars in assets and I can see no reason why they can not borrow against those assets to ramp up the number of new houses needed .If it was a private company that is exactly what they would be doing .They should be able to borrow at least 40 billion and build a lot of new homes .
    While out walking last week in Hamilton I came across a family living in their car in someones front yard .They did not even have a single chair to sit on under the makeshift sun shade they had erected .They had been kicked out of the motel they were living in because the social housing contract had not been renewed .
    This is in the electorate of the minister of social housing Potaka another great Christian .

  3. ‘It is ridiculous that there are state houses worth millions showing a poor return on investment ‘.
    How well you capture the spirit of the times Trevor!
    Should you ever go to the New Zealand history website you can read( or perhaps someone could read aloud to you) that the whole idea of state housing was to provide decent housing to people who would not be able to afford houses for themselves and their families.
    Returns on investment did not come into it. It was designed to cover costs, not make large profits.

    This was, or course, in the days when Aotearoa aspired to be a country where poverty, hunger and deprivation would not exist. Generations of people fought for that ideal.
    Of course, once that decent society was established it was flooded by whinging, selfish bastards from overseas who took the advantages offered to them but later denied anything for future generations.

    1. One house in an upmarket suburb or 3 warm dry homes in a different area which would be better for those that need help from the state. In an upmarket area the shps would not stock cheap goods there would be less public transport .In a truly egalitarian society this would not be the case but that is not reality.

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  4. Bishop hasn’t come under enough scrutiny. Being a tobacco lobbyist, he knows his ‘product’ is dangerous but still keep pushing it for the right amount of money. That attitude carries over to everything else he touches.

  5. this is a neo-feudalist agenda to dis-possess society of it’s assets. Inequality and bidding up prices is their grift to hoard wealth. Your wealth. The middle class are the next to fall in this race to a libertarian pay-to-play society.

    Stay in your homes.
    Do not attempt to contact loved ones, insurance agents or attorneys.
    Shut up!
    Do not attempt to think or depression may occur.

  6. One house in an upmarket suburb or 3 warm dry homes in a different area which would be better for those that need help from the state. In an upmarket area the shps would not stock cheap goods there would be less public transport .In a truly egalitarian society this would not be the case but that is not reality.

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    1. Yes Trevor, but why not go to a more market driven solution, just feed the homeless to the hungry? Two problems solved.

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