Another Poll has National melting down – why replacing Luxon with the Bish won’t work
Chris Bishop emerges as successor-in-waiting as half of voters want Christopher Luxon gone
Chris Bishop has narrowly emerged as the public’s preferred successor to Prime Minister Christopher Luxon, as nearly half of voters say the National Party should replace its leader before the next election.
The latest The Post/Freshwater Strategy poll with Infrastructure New Zealand shows 49% of voters think National should change leader, compared with 38% who believe Luxon should stay. Another 12% are unsure.
Even among National supporters, nearly one in four (23%) want a change at the top.
Among possible replacements, infrastructure and transport minister Bishop leads clearly with 16% support, followed by education minister Erica Stanford (12%), finance minister Nicola Willis (11%), and health minister Simeon Brown (8%).
Erica can’t become leader because of the skeletons in her closet, but there’s a real problem with trying to get the Bish to replace Luxon and it is this:
National are consistently dropping into the 20s because the economy is haemorrhaging thanks to their decision to destroy the infrastructure pipeline in 2024…
Another political poll has National slipping into 20s, left bloc holding power
…the economy is continuing to melt down, the latest leading indicators for the economy suggest a darkening outlook for September quarter GDP. The BusinessNZ-BNZ PSI survey out yesterday showed the services sector that makes up over 60% of the economy contracted in September, its 19th-consecutive month of contraction.
The matching BusinessNZ-BNZ PMI survey for the manufacturing sector on Friday also showed a contraction.
Replacing Bish with Luxon while Nicola Willis is still destroying the economy will be like slapping a fresh coat of paint on the Titanic.
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It would be an improvement – replacing stale tofu with a steamed pudding – but, lacking a classical education, the Gnats need to learn why bread comes before circuses
Oh very good SM. More SM is what is needed, wold lead to good outcomes.
It would be good to see Bishop if only to see Luxon booted. Sounds petty but Luxon is so unpalatable that it would be satisfying. Willis certainly needs to go too. Who in their right mind would even consider Simeon Brown as leader? That’s ridiculous
Gruel for you boy. And don’t ask for More because you don’t deserve it.
Luxon, Willis, Bishop, Stanford, Brown…..ALL …fucking…. useless…
What a rag tag bunch of, need to be gone, uselessness…
How poorly served N.Z. is with this untrustworthy, shallow thinking, click bait mentallity lot floundering about…
If N.Z. wants any chance of having a meaningful future to pin its hopes on then the adults need to get back in the room immediately…what a mess!!
Not a single professional amongst that lot Grant.
National crashing the economy is not having them in the “box seat”. They have had two years and every single day of those two years they have taken us backwards. Rolling Luxon won’t make any difference because apart from the professionalism Reti shows the rest of the National party couldn’t run a corner dairy shop. This is why Reti will go before the next election because National are a rag tag bunch and their policies as a coalition so morally bankrupt, they will be voted out en masse next year. The millions that have suffered through the coalition’s austerity campaign only need to get out and vote and the illiterate and the financially incompetent bordering hard right-wing coalition will be consigned to the dust bin and Labour can make NZ great again.
It does not surprised me that the Left want National to role the leader as they know voters hate this type of going on and history shows parties losing power. I have not hear any call tto change from the National Party functions I agreed I think it is wishful thinking at a time where the Right is in the box seat
maybe you misunderstood what they were saying? You managed to confuse roll & role in your comment so your credibility as a reliable witness is very low.
There’s also the ” call tto change” whatever that may mean? Short for tattoo?
Also, wishful thinking is thinking National is in the box seat, hahaha.
Melon head is the worst PM this country has had for many decades, insincere and politically naive. He is only believable when bragging about being “sorted” or putting the boot into beneficiaries.
Keep the pillock there I say. New leaders inevitably get an attention blitz that is a distraction from what needs to be dealt with.
As we can see from the council election in Kaipara if the so called left get out and mobalise their voters there will be a massive swing in the way NZ votes .Then Winston trump will call his ferrals to riot and burn down the government buildings .
Joking aside NZ needs a shift like the one seen in Kaipara to get us back to a country focused on the well being of the whole population and less focus on endless growth for the rich 1% .We need to have a real good look at where we want to go as filling the country up with millions of people is a failed policy .We should cap the population at the current level and focus on getting back to full employment and a home for everyone .If we focus on the well being of everyone the rest will look after its self .We dont need growth we need fairness .Where has the fucus on growth got us ?in deep shit because that growth is no longer there so the economy will shrink so best we make sure we can look after the ones that are already here and stop being a training coumtry for people passing through .
I think that the National Party is fixated on having a middle-aged, middle-class, white, male, technocrat as a purportedly charismatic leader, and has done so for about the past quarter-century. It looks like the legacy of the Brash years.
It only worked once – with Sir John Key – but they don’t seem to have learned from the various failures. Is it a sign of an ossified party executive overly beholden to the limited vision of it’s donor base?
Which Chris are you talking about? Hipkins or Luxon?
Yes. That one. Hard to miss, really. . .
National party dickhead or apologies if you haven’t the intellect to see where Henry inserted the words National Party.
Well a “middle-aged, middle-class, white, male, technocrat” could easily describe Hipkins, although a long bow to call him a technocrat.
I just wonder how Hipkins can go into next year’s election with a “judge me” platform when he hid behind lawyers (paid for by the tax payer) when it came to the Covid Enquiry?
Give one valid example of Hipkins hiding behind lawyers over Covid
Bg, as Clive says, give us an example? That’s an increasing tactic of the right. Just make shit up. It pains me to say that because “right” used to be more about being a conservative than a flagrant bullshit artist. Perhaps I’m being naive but being right didn’t mean a total lack of integrity, with some obvious exceptions. Now it’s par for the course for too many.
Simply throwing adolescent insults around, and making up some utter crap that is easily disproven only exposes the vacancy of any semblance of a social conscience among the lickspittles supporting the vacant cabal currently giving our birthrights away to the highest bidders..
This corruption, and utter lack of humanity is exacerbated by a level of incompetence that is actually dangerous for the future of NZ society as a whole..
And you are cheering for it? How stupid are you, really? A “prime minister” who “transformed” air NZ from one of the better airlines into a third class cattle transport contractor. A finance minister who’s only “qualification” is a degree in literature, and a retinue of self serving big mouths who would butcher your grandmother if it suited their narrative…
Yet you still cheer them on…? That level of stupidity, and indifference to the intergenerational abuse/damage being gleefully inflicted by the drones of the colonial power structure displays a mindset that should be a notifiable illness..
The teen snap chatter in chief!
Once upon a time, long, long ago – politicians held the long-term interests of their constituents and well-being of the entire country front of mind.
Those days are over.
It’s now whatever helps those lobby groups, wealthy donors and junk tanks.
Get these right-wing weirdos out asap.
Another reason it won’t work is because Bishop is as unappealing at Luxon. He comes across as another smartie pants and as an amateur, again, with no real knowledge or expertise about anything except being a lobbyist which is about as convincing as being a used car salesman. Apologies to honest used car salesmen.
Why can’t the National party find anyone who wasn’t a lobbyist, a tax lawyer/accountant, any sort of sales/marketing person, someone with family connections to big business, career politicians or someone who worked for a politician.
Why do they not seek out knowledge-rich people from all industries who can bring actual work experience and knowledge into parliament.
Is it because people who are truly well-educated tend not to belong to the National party?
Perhaps Chris would reflect the old joke about the confused or twisted signwriter as seen on the billboard – ‘Honest car used John dealer’.
Yes, well that explains Cluxon anyway, doesn’t understand the language.
Changing the leadership will not change National policies and it’s the POLICIES that people hate. None of the leadership wannbees have expressed anything but obedient support for Luxon’s luddite, backward, long-discredited, “bottom-feeder” ideologies.
So the problem’s the POLICIES, not the leader. Admitted, Luxon’s utterly useless but that’s been evident from the start and none of the others will make any difference to that ultimate, failing fact. Luxon runs a very tight ship, forbidding real discussion, brooking no alternative views and keeping all decision-making close to his chest. A potential leader would have stood up by now, defying Luxon’s control and signalling what changes might be made if Luxon is toppled. So far… NOTHING.
An “oaf” on the world stage a sniggering one at that lol!!!!
One tends to look at the likes of Luxon, Willis, Brown, Jones, Peters, Seymour, Collins, Brownlee and so many others and come to the conclusion this lot(the so-called Coalition government)are full of Attention Seeking, Self-Serving, Self-obsessed Entitled Troughers.
None of them are working in the Best Interest of NZ and NZers but in THEIR BEST INTEREST.
Quoting Judith Collins on something else but “They Don’t Care”.
They show on a daily basis they cannot be trusted. But replacing the “I Once Ran an Airline” with a “Tobacco Industry Supporter” will not achieve much for National.
They will keep repeating the failed policies of the past and do the Usual Copy and Paste of the Failed Policies of America eg the Fabled Trickle Down Effect.
The words trickle-down used actually indicate pollies lack of concern for their job and ostensible values, as trickling down drop by drop does not a happy, busy, well-run democracy make. And it is not specified what is trickling down. So the term and attitude behind was always suspect. Be very suspicious!
Did you see the Talbot poll the day after? Win for Left Bloc. Labour ahead of National, Luxon languishing, only NZ First has gone up which is always a worry.
If the Nats ditch Luxon and Willis for Bishop and Stanford they will win the next election – been pointing this out since Jesus was in the in Nazareth 1st XV . .
Only a possibility JB, cracks are starting to appear in the CoC…
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/winston-peters-and-david-seymour-trade-blows-over-fonterra-deal/EFDAILIHVFEZVD3V4SXMPTP5MQ/
This wretched CoC is being bled to death by a thousand self inflicted cuts and the knives are being sharpened even sharper
The Riroriro is appreciated too – and Countryboy. A lot of talent on this site.
You’re correct. We are stuck in a cycle of abuse. We are seen as merely a stepping-stone to a knighthood and then riches galore as the 1% shower ex-politicians with rewards.