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  1. Before everyone goes bat shit crazy – the story has no legs in my opinion without more crucial pieces of information.

    I quote “Bank of New Zealand made an after-tax profit of $805 million”.

    What was the pre tax profit? How much tax did they pay to NZ Govt?

    How much have they given to the community?

    How much risk do they under write in their client base?

    I hate half story agendas looking at only one section of a financial pie.

    I’m not evaluating a thing until I know all financial fundamental facts.

    Looking or applying journalism to an agenda of one side of a coin is very annoying.

    I’m saying the profits may be very high and NZ needs something in place to tax high profit income tax more.

    However, many base their decisions like me on media info because we hardly have time to do research ourselves because we have day time jobs. So how about journalism drops the agenda tone and looks at the story of a the whole pie instead of the piece they just want to slice up.

    Show us the whole money pie – not just a what I presume is a large piece because I hate assuming.

    For this story to have legs I’d like to know the following:
    1. Debt servicing amount wages, rent etc – GST contributed.
    2. Debt under writing amount.
    3. Tax paid on income profit.
    4. Employment considerations – PAYE contributions to our tax system.
    5. Community funding amounts.
    6. Interest given to investors.
    7. Is any of this profit part of client savings which is theirs like kiwisaver contributions or solely company profit?

    Explain some things to us who don’t know about bank operations before picking what you want.

    I know a business owner who made 500K in company income tax but this financial year 425K has to service debt from investment. It’s just paper sometimes without actual value that can be removed. It’s about individual perspective.

    Am I out of line?

    1. The banks make lots of profit because they mostly lend on housing, and house prices are high. In reality it’s the high price of housing that is the problem not bank profits. However, it would help if banks were owned by the state and o0perated as public utilities. It would also help if we limited their capacity for creating money out of nothing.

  2. Covid Windfalls tax.

    Santander profits up despite windfall tax on banks
    https://www.digitaljournal.com/business/santander-profits-up-despite-windfall-tax-on-banks/article

    Australia had a commission of enquiry and fined banks, NZ government, nothing to see here… lets tax the doctors as easier – Gov still don’t know why skilled people are leaving NZ!

    Banks hit with $78m in royal commission penalties: ASIC
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/banking/2021/04/16/bank-royal-commission-penalties/

    Note – there is no point just reporting bank CEO salaries if they don’t include the bonuses.

  3. How much is ‘excess’ when referring to profits, and will the left refund the banks when they make a loss in subsequent years?

  4. If you want to target these profits why not have the RBNZ insist on higher deposit rates from retail banks? Is encouraging a decent return on savings not another way of making people think twice about spending?Clearly there must be a reason they are not looking at that.

  5. It’s actually great news NZ and Aus banks are profitable for compliance reason s.

  6. The whole left schtick is to foment envy, hatred, bile and anger against specific groups and to say to voters “there’s your enemy over there, vote for us and we’ll slay them for you and your lives will be better.”

  7. The thing I find hard about the “tax unrealised capital gains” argument is what do you do about people who own their own home, but have little income. I’m thinking about superannuitants who live off the pension. They’re often not rich, I know many in my family who have no other assets than their house. Their houses will have gone up in value too. Should they have to pay a CGT against unrealised gains? How on earth would they afford that? Would they have to borrow against the home to pay the tax? Surely that becomes a debt spiral that can only get worse.
    If you exempt pensioners from such a CGT, lots of the wealthy are technically pensioners. If you exempt the family home, then there’s loopholes there too.
    I get the argument, but how do you actually make it work in practice. That’s what I see as missing in all this. If you can tell me how to make it work so that it’s capturing the people who can and should contribute I’d be more inclined to support it. Without it, I see some unhealthy unintended consequences.

  8. Adrian Orr guaranteed record bank profits with his over extended and continued Funding for lending program. Fatty Arbuckle loved the idea so much that he gave Orr an extension to his contract. They all robbed the poor to give to the rich. Our only hope is to get more French immigrants so we can educate these parasites.

  9. Inflation is killing us. I just have this general idea that the whole idea of printing money is the problem. Someone once said that there have been hundreds of states that created fiat currencies (not gold or silver basically), and every currency was eventually printed (or multiplied) into oblivion.

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