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    1. Fortunately, as AFKTT never tires of telling us, the world is going to end soon, so we are only talking short term for the misery of a National govt.

  1. Great article Mike. Labour has lost much of its traditional support and respect from not recognising the large block of voters who support Green policy as much as they do theirs. Labour would need to show a real and committed approach to supporting the Greens (pre and post election) before I for one considered lending them my support again as I did in the past. I would also strongly suggest that Labour need to show a great deal more involvement and leadership in local issues which, in my experience they fail to do and hence are perceived as lacking in awareness and leadership on a community level.

    1. Labour still sees itself as a broad-church party, where specifics such as you demand are a step away from rather than towards their goals. They don’t feel they have to “commit” to the Greens, rather they share goals with them. Maybe it is for the Greens to do the committing, if you think it is that important. Everyone knows there is a lot of synergy between the parties, but it would reduce debate on important subjects if they were to formally unite in some way. They don’t see eye to eye on everything, nor should they, nor need they. I can’t see the value in a forced marriage – even electorally.
      Sure, more needs to be done at a local level. Which means more active people at a local level.
      People like you, Whatsyapoint.
      If not you then who?
      If not now then when?

  2. Your first 11 paragraphs are tinged with sadness for the loss of Key and the great work of National. I do not agree and I cannot be arsed with the hollow platitudes to Keys government!

    Trouble is, as with most things their changes to law were conditional. Health and Safety laws affected Butterfly breeding but did not touch the dangerous occupation of farming. Those kind of laws are a joke because its all about who you know.

    Our growth is in a large part propped up by rampant migration which has had the damaging effect of what is happening in Auckland, namely the housing sector is stuffed. So many people unable to buy a home and so many people in dangerous debt, not to mention New Zealand.

    So many people living in cars, garages and substandard over crowded housing. Small businesses pushed to the brink by spiraling rents and greed. State houses boarded up and sold off. The asset sales never stopped with just the power companies, they’ve continued ever since!

    And that leads on to our employment climate. Working people especially in Auckland struggling to pay rent and live at the same time. Student visa holders and other quick fix migrants were and are brought in as cheap exploitable labour to suppress wages and conditions which it successfully did but that makes every worker worse off.

    Environmentally our country is far worse off under National. Havelock North’s drinking water poisoned, and I wager that will not be the last town to suffer but the elephant in the room, livestock effluent, has been left of the investigation list. It appears most of our waterways are badly polluted or damaged by irrigation.

    Which dove tails nicely with Key again. The bar was set very low for ethical and moral behaviour. No wonder there were so many rotten ministers around. Jokey, beer around the barby, every mans rags to riches millionaire Key and his involvement in dirty politics left a very nasty taste, not to mention his “creative” deals with Saudi millionaires and sheep, or Sky City or Warner Bros or even telling the truth. Or the tax haven that was set up in this country for his fellow rich men. Or the fraudulent carbon credits bought by our government firmly cementing their attitude to climate change.

    He may HAVE been popular but toward the end he wasn’t even liked by two third of the voters.

    And finally if we are doing so well economically why the cut and frozen budgets to nearly every public service since National got in except for the spy agency’s? Says a lot about National, doesn’t it!

    1. And finally if we are doing so well economically why the cut and frozen budgets to nearly every public service since National got in except for the spy agency’s? Says a lot about National, doesn’t it!

      The answer to the above is National gave away $2,000,000,000 billion a year away in tax cuts which cause the budget cuts due to tax income decreases.

    2. The increase in spy budget is ligit if not a display of self mutilation when the US and Isreal launch a sophisticated electronic attack destroying Irans nuclear fissility, opening the door for any number of crippling economic attacks by any one with a lap top, which is a ligitimate concern.

      You’ve also kindly listed a number of economic symptoms for the umpteenth time now, that I am familiar with, with out reading the whole lot. It’s not that I dispute your logic or data, it’s that every one is quietly looking for mechanisms of change and Mike Treens article does that for people.

      1. The umpteenth time maybe, but there is an awful lot of revisionist history going on with Keys departure. Simply saying yes we know all that and lets move on is not cutting it. This government has any awful track record that is being rose tinted out.

        I mean Mr Treen is taking the PM at his word,an OMG moment if I have ever heard. Who would given Keys history although it is something you may have done with most previous PM’s but not Key simply because we never knew what his word actually stood for.

        1. Point taken. We got taken for a ride. Any one can boost GDP by less than 2% when New Zealand’s debt to GDP doubles.

          Some people like to think they’ve achieved much through there own hard work. Truth is there hasn’t been any innovation that wasn’t publicly funded.

          It’s a pity hard right types like to ignore reality

    3. I’m reading that it could have been much worse. Fortunately, Key was a dilettante who abandoned his regular unpopular instinctive positions at the murmur of a focus group.

      But English, with his altogether more stolid approach, may feel that, to keep his Right Wing onside, he will have to guts through many more divisive Right-generated policies. That is both a menace and an opportunity.

      Or not. We shall see.

      In the meanwhile the Left have to look to their own rejuvenation.
      This means (for me) a new Deputy Leader (I don’t think Annette King should leave parliament. She is still way too good and too valuable, but the next generation must be introduced and Andrew, for all his organizing skills, won’t do that, but must stay on as leader, now). There must be a real emphasis on finding youthful,competent, charismatic candidates who are, at least in some cases, known to the community. Ideally, not just as TV weathermen.

      The reason to vote Left must be enunciated. If our reps can’t credibly do that, they have no right to be standing.

      The right election slogan to reflect that reason must be coined. That’s a slogan that makes the point every time it is uttered.

      I would suggest something like: “NZ Needs Everyone” or “No One Left Behind”. Which makes a general point about what the movement is about. Please, not “For a Caring Tomorrow” or “Working for You” or even “It’s Time for Andrew” (Or Time for anyone or thing else.) Which doesn’t.

      I thought it was smart for both Andrew and the Greens to suggest an early election. Makes it hard for English to call one. My thinking is that with a little longer, fault-line cracks will inevitably start to appear in National, while a more dispassionate analysis of the Key years of wasted time and timid Neo-liberal experiments will begin to dim that Media-polished aura.

      Tracey Watkins is usually a reliable National stooge, but she was right in saying in an opinion piece today that, if the Left are to seize the narrative, there will be no better time than now. It remains to be seen if they are capable of it.

    4. +1 Xray

      “Your first 11 paragraphs are tinged with sadness for the loss of Key and the great work of National. I do not agree and I cannot be arsed with the hollow platitudes to Keys government!”

      Yeah, that got me too, quite surprising that a so called union man is soft towards the most dirtiest, corrupt and contemptuous politician this country has ever had. The damage that John key has done will take generations to sort, if it ever can be.

  3. Also what we need as a NEW UNION specifically targeting “ALL WORKERS WORKING UNDER TEMP AGENCY CONTRACTS” who have no-one acting in their interests other than private employment lawyers.

  4. “taking on the bosses in much broader and more militant way” Exactly who are you talking about?

    Public sector? Councils and their spin-offs? Crown entities?

    Which corporates?

    And how will you deal with the frequently struggling ‘family businesses’ – or those that bring in exploitative practices from overseas and use them in very small enterprises on people who don’t know the groundrules here?

    Many Kiwis will put up with appalling conditions because ‘the boss is really nice. Treats us like family…They’re struggling. Etc.’ You know that. You’ve heard the excuses and the shuffling, I’m sure. The CFMEU wouldn’t have a maggot’s show here.

    And quite a few of your members will have side hustles as well as their day jobs. Split personalities. They’re TradeMe-ists as well as whatever their day job is. Or moonlighters – just because of the past 30+ years. Or volunteers down at the food bank or op shop.

    ‘Strong unions’ may mean more than equal power against the bosses – whoever they might be. The employed, self-employed, and barely supported on pittances, could do with informed and able advocates fighting on their side for something quite different from the days of the European wharfies.

    ‘Which side are you on?’

    1. Andrea is quite right.
      It is a complex and subtle world out there.
      Single, draconian solutions may sometimes do more harm than good.
      Best results will almost inevitably come by better representation, better analysis and better co-operation.

      Facing down or attacking the “Bosses” only works for the most egregious abuses. Even in the most hierarchical, industrialised societies it didn’t work as well as universal franchise did.

      Unions are necessary and desirable. But we can’t relitigate the past 50 years. We have to reimagine the next 50.

  5. I know many will not agree with me here but from observation over the past 8 years I have noticed increasing bias by the media towards this government. In fact it has been proven that the NZ Herald is biased towards to the National government. The NZ Herald is over-dosed with pro-National journalists. You only need to read articles supposedly written by say Audrey Young and Barry Soper to see the bias that is rampant in that now unworthy tabloid.
    And so what we get to read is heavily manipulated to suit this government media reports.
    Over a long period of time the NZ media has made a sustained attack on the Labour Opposition and the Greens.Labour more so than the Greens. And because of this I am sure many naive people read what the National government controlled media says and takes it as absolute Gospel. The result being that Labour and its Leader are made to look weak and almost gutless.
    The sustained attack by the state-controlled media towards the Labour in particular is a sham and a shame.
    We are only 10 short months out from the next election(if it will be held in November 2017).In that time I am sure we will be seeing more infighting amongst the National government. Considering there were 5 contenders for the two ‘top dog’ jobs in government in the last week shows there is uncertainty within the government. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the rot has set into this government and deservedly so.
    And whilst National MPs will bicker amongst themselves and fight amongst themselves I doubt they will have the time let alone the inclination to think about NZers and especially those on low incomes.
    So lets await and see how things work out. I am sure the Double Dipping MP for DIpton and the Vindictive(provide names of beneficiaries who criticse her)Deputy PM will be more concerned about their next back-dated pay increase than anyone else in NZ.

  6. NZF will definitely hold the balance of power this 2017 Election it remains to be seen whether Labour can get enough votes to govern outright with the Greens, I doubt whether Winston will go into a coalition with National after being shafted by Dame Jenny Shipley?

    1. What’s in National that worth supporting anyway? Besides, Winston has a beef with National for a number of reasons.

  7. “Key was not a very ideological right wing leader. He had a personal manner that seemed to appeal to many and never did anything that would upset people in significant numbers. That included making no changes to many policies of the Labour-led government that he had previously condemned as socialistic when in opposition – such as Working for Families and interest-free student loans.”

    I take some issues with this, Mike Treen, maybe it is exactly why your union is also known to not care much about those on benefits, why you take this position.

    NO changes to Labour policies, what do you mean? He did cut the entitlement to the sole parent benefit like it was never cut before, so even those whose youngest child is only two have to go and look for work or face sanctions.

    He and his nasty social welfare snake head Bennett brought in work testing for sick and disabled, they abolished the damned sickness benefit, and forced those to move onto a Jobseeker Allowance benefit, for fuck’s sake.

    They also abolished the invalid’s benefit and the now called Supported Living Payment benefit is much more harder to get, as they use biased, “trained” hatchet doctors to declare as many sick and disabled as “fit for work”, as they get away with.

    They boast that they increased benefits, but they only did this to a small, selected group with kids, while being parents on benefits, and the meager 25 dollars are mostly abated, so most do get nothing near that, Mr Treen.

    Sick and disabled got NO increase for so many damned years, living in abject poverty, and those are the ones deserving more, same as those with little kids, but did Mr Key do anything for them? Nop!

    The whole work focused drive for those on benefits has driven so many into precarious work that is harming their health, not helping them, and that is what is the agenda, throw as many off benefits, to save damned costs, nothing else.

    Key is and was a criminal, who engaged in currency speculation to make a speculator agency and himself rich, and did stuff all for New Zealanders. Go to McGehan’s Close and talk to the people there, and where is Aroha, or what was her name? She now lives in Australia, I heard last.

    This apologistic bullshit so many offer when it comes to head crime syndicate operator Mr Key, it is disgusting, I am disgusted with this post, actually.

    When are you getting real and honest and name a criminal by what he or she is?

    https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2016/08/16/senior-scientist-and-legal-experts-discredit-evidence-used-by-msd-and-dr-bratt-when-claiming-the-health-benefits-of-work/

    ‚In the expectation of recovery’, Faulkner, Centre for Welfare Reform, Scrib
    https://www.scribd.com/doc/308613502/In-the-Expectation-of-Recovery
    (criticism of biopsychosocial model, Aylward et al)

    http://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2013/12/28/designated-doctors-used-by-work-and-income-some-also-used-by-acc-the-truth-about-them/

    https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/designated-doctors-used-by-winz-msd-the-truth-about-them-post-upd-18-10-2016.pdf

    https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2015/08/09/msd-and-dr-david-bratt-present-misleading-evidence-claiming-worklessness-causes-poor-health/

    https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/msd-dr-bratt-present-misleading-evidence-on-worklessness-and-health-publ-post-19-09-16.pdf

    http://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2014/10/19/nz-finance-minister-bill-english-insults-beneficiaries-with-mansel-aylwards-work-will-set-you-free-approach/

    When you have “the left” present such simplistic and shallow information, as we often get, them not even researching stuff, and having virtually NO think tank, then it is no wonder that the misinformation, the spin and propaganda of this government so easily succeeds.

  8. After John Key, you ask?

    A big swing to the right and hopefully a Labour/N.Z.F/Green victory in 2017.

    HOPEFULLY.

    If not, a big swing to the right and a social policy bonfire of epic proportions.

  9. “He [Winston Peters] went with National in 1996-1998”

    Really surprised that the following fact was omitted; 2 years later Winston Peters walked away from National in 1998, and publicly apologized for supporting the National government, he has not supported National since. In fact, Winston Peters, unlike 1996, was not hesitate and lost no time in supporting Clark’s Labour government.

    Quite frankly, it’s not New Zealand First that cannot be trusted, given the party is largely on the same page as Labour and the Greens, it’s the Maori party that cannot be trusted, and they have proven that time and again over the last 8 years, and they most certainly don’t have the support of Maori either, who see the party as only being in it for themselves, that’s what I keep getting told.

  10. I can see parties able to work with Hone very well, but not National’s lapdogs, the Maori party. Hard to comprehend the pressure to gut Mana to give the Maori party another shot at sitting at national’s table.

  11. Eight years of a National government and I still haven’t had a Key supporter tell me what he’s done. A total waste of space. But even though Key’s gone Labour can’t afford to be complacent. Labour needs to get 35%+ in the polls and if that means allowing the Greens to be more left and it to be more centrist so be it. National could still win the election, but English and Bennett will be on borrowed time. I think National is on the cusp of a post election blood-bath whether they win the election or not. All of those tensions involving Collins, etc. are now coming to the surface. Key was like Clark, a powerful leader no-one wanted to cross, but now he’s gone the other National MPs and their rampant egos are coming to the fore.

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