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  1. It must be said that there is a long history of hypocrisy among New Zealand politicians – particularly regarding war.
    !n 1917 trade unionist Bob Semple went to jail for opposing conscription. Other members of the Labour Party were also imprisoned for their opposition to conscription.
    In 1940 Labour Party member of parliament and cabinet minister Bob Semple introduced conscription and the Labour government imposed worse imprisonment than for criminals on conscientious objectors and public critics of the war.
    The rationale was that the 1914-1918 war was ”ímperialist” and anti- worker while the second world war was justified because it was against facism. To be fair philosophers such as George Bernard Shaw and Bertrand Russell were also flexible in their pacifism.
    A cynical observer might conclude that people are opposed to war when they might have to take part in it but can accept sending other people to it( Trump, Biden, Clinton, Bush Junior all dodge Vietnam, John Wayne dodges World War II and makes millions playing tough U.S. soldiers, Slyvester Stallone..).
    As comrade Trotter pointed out the days of mass deployments overseas are probably gone as are mass protests.
    Opposition to the Vietnam War, the burning of draft cards, flight to neutral countries – not necessary if the mass of the population is safe from conscription.
    The U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan were volunteers and professionals and so the bulk of the U.S. population only cared about the financial cost of the war. They had no reason to protest against those wars or any future wars.

  2. Get real. The letter to the Labour party and this socalled Labour government needs to be about our bottom line issues like housing, health and immigration.

  3. Kia ora Mike. Among the contributors to TDB, you took a principled position, Dr Liz Gordon did not but has had the grace to apologize for her moral lapse, while Comrade Trotter remains an unrepentant advocate of “imperial statecraft” and the brutal suppression of non-AngloSaxon peoples. Helen Clark makes it clear that she would have liked to continue the bloodshed for another twenty years while former National Defence Minister Wayne Mapp sensibly declares that a peace should and could have been negotiated decades ago.
    Which all tends to confirm my view that the moral qualities of an individual are more significant than their political affiliation.

  4. There is much of blair in Clark. Thanks for posting the letter. Knowledge and history needs to live.

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