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  1. The reality is that as our population is allowed to increase and our public services cannot meet that demand because of government failure, our country will become third world. It is stating in health.

      1. Correct Ian and that takes a pro health and infrastructure government. This one isn’t.

  2. How do we stop the zero sum game? By not having an immigration policy to support the real estate economy as the Governments No.1 priority (more renter demand to drive up house prices and rent).
    The defunding and understaffing of public services, as we should know, is about destroying unions (particularly in health, currently) to lower wages (replace staff who leave with migrants from countries that don’t have labour unions -the new renters), and to prepare the asset/service for full privatisation. This is what Levy and this Government are doing now.

    1. “How do we stop the zero sum game? ”

      Mostly by finding the guts to tax the uber rich.

    2. Exactly right BRIAN then those immigrants don’t follow NZ politics and further denigrate health systems through political ignorance.

  3. If we want to see our future, if we continue with the love affair with neoliberalism, then look at the final stages as displayed by the Trump/Musk presidency. With the curtains pulled back, we see that the “rich” will be well looked after, while the poor will simply die off. And if you are not already in the top 5% or so, then don’t dream that you will be in the “rich” group.
    Of course, we could tax the super-rich now to help finance a proper health (and education) system for the benefit of all, but our main party politicians would lose their financial backers??

  4. Hard to disagree with anything in the article, though the use of “follow the money” was different from what I have seen before.
    However, as you rightly point out, private hospitals are taking the money-generating elective non-acute procedures and leave the difficult acute stuff to the public system. Presumably most of these private procedures are pretty straight-forward and routine, and any likely complications can probably be established in advance.
    So why for a routine hip replacement do we need orthopaedic surgeons with a medical degree and then 5 years of advanced surgical training? Isn’t the lack of staff one of the major issues? What if we trained twice as many people in half the time to specialise in and do these routine procedures? Does everyone need to be a orthopaedic surgeon/consultant to perform these ops?
    I could be totally wrong but surely there is room for a lower level of surgeon much the same as we have nurse practitioners to reduce the workload on the orthopaedic surgeons who could be used to determine the process of treatment in some sort of triage process.

    1. Rangi Well trained surgeons as opposed to partially trained orthopods are preferable because the unexpected or the unpredicted complication can occur in any medical process, and it’s in the patients’ best interests to cater for this. That being said, your suggestion may well come about.

      The proposal for a medical school at Waikato University focusing on producing doctors suitable for treating country people, rather than all people, was similarly discomforting.

  5. The only way we are going to dig ourselves out of this hole is to properly fund Primary care .
    Along with being able to access any medicines you need whether Pharmac funded or not.

    Concentrating on the Hospital systems failure is not going to solve our health systems faults.

    For too long everyone has concentrated on the hospitals and ignored the primary care sector problems .

  6. The real under funding of public health is due to that public health money going to the private sector .90% Of the pos being done in private hospitals are probably funded by the public system which has contracted the private hospital to do the surgery .
    Then we have the part time consultant using the public system to recruit patients for his private practice and the private hospital where he is also employed .This then makes the treatment of that person more expensive because the public system is paying that person twice for the same outcome .
    The public health system is in fact building the private hospital next door using the money syphoned off when these operations are sent to the private hospital .It is never going to be cheaper to send a patient to the private hospital than having the surgery done in the public hospital .
    An example is when my wife dislocated her shoulder she was refered to a consultant at Waikato hospital because she really should have had surgery .The cosultant examined her at the hospital then refered hr to his private practice for steroid treatment but sent her back to waikato for a further consultation and xray using the public health equipment .The results were then sent to his private practice for him to look at instead of being sent to his office at the hospital .In the end she got sick of all the ducking and diving between his two offices she flagged the whole thing and never had an opperation .

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