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  1. Bang on.
    A clusterfuck of incompetence, misguided ideology, arrogance, identity politics and neglect of their core constituency which they have now lost. Possibly forever. Good riddance.

    1. Jack OK, but perhaps not as much as a clusterfuck as you suggest.The identity politics scenarios, damaging gender ID ideology in the school curriculum, dreadful dumbing down of the education system, determination to stifle freedom of speech, and even the deterioration of the Public Health Service, can also been seen as social engineering.

      Blazer queries who are the Labour Party strategists, which is a pertinent question to be asking. And don’t forget that the Nats went along with much of this; only 8 of them voted against the Conversion Practices Bill; I think that they all supported gender change being accomplished by a simple annotation on a certificate, and I think that Bill English did his damndest to privatise our once world-leading free public health system.

      1. I dont expect National to be any better, only worse, but this is the Labour Party, a party I have, past tense, voted for for 40 years.
        It is an ideological shell of its former self, a cynical, populist bunch of former academics and party bureaucrats with no grip on reality and who have mistaken identity for progressiveness.

        1. Jack. OK, except that identity politics, as pioneered overtly by the Greens in particular, is based upon categorising great chunks of the population according to their own screwball perceptions, and not upon reality, facts, science or sociological research, and as such, inherently flawed.

          There is nothing progressive about reverting to the mentality of medieval inquisitors or the witch hunters of Salem. This is the grouping chipping away at freedom of speech, controlling much of the media, and too practically ignorant to be effective politicians. The Nats are just as bad insofar as they all depend upon armies of pr people and advisors to tell them how to think and what to say.

    2. @ Jack, I suspect there ARE core constituency voters who have lost the faith but let’s not forget it was the swing voters who guaranteed a Labour victory in 2020, and going back 3 years before that a Labour ‘victory’ was only made possible by a controversial coalition. Yes, the polls are against them this time, and increasingly the narrative and on the face of it Labour have fucked up big time. But come the day it may be a bit closer than many think. I have a gut feeling there are still many undecided voters, who come the day will party vote for Labour as they have in the past, simply because they dont trust the right and feel the Greens are now too divided. But that won’t get Labour the numbers and we’ll likely have the Nats looking towards Act and possibly the Greens to form a government. But it’s all crystal ball gazing until the count comes in. Shaw and Peters have it correct in saying as much – but in my crystal ball I dont really see NZF getting above 5%.

  2. Bryce never mentioned the relentless negative publicity churned out by the media including this site coupled with the huge amount of anti government press releases funded by the top end of town.
    I am sitting outside a cafe in Whanganui right now and it is packed to the extent that even on a shit day like today the outside tables are full.
    The economy is just fine but the media have either been seduced or paid to put out the opposite story and the likes of Bryce have been sucked in as well.
    Another example of a booming economy is my wife having to wait 10 days to have a windscreen chip repaired as the glass company is so busy.
    Another example is that both my apprentice tradie grandchildren one an electrician and the other a builder have both been shoulder tapped in the last month by employers who are booked up for at least a year.

    1. Same in Nelson on the weekend, cafes jammed, car parks chokka, more gas guzzling ute’s than ants. Yeah the economies in strife!
      The issue is the mindless parroting by the boomer generation of the tripe they’ve been fed by the likes of, one minute Mike, his blow up doll, the ChildBride, barely Sober, Kerre Whatever, Jenna, mal y pence, ad nauseam.
      I note “ arrogance” as a perjorative descriptor for the Labour Party has been introduced to the narrative. Heh heh you old copies of your parents wait till you see Colin’s back in full flight!

    2. Tom, that could be interpreted as a skilled labour shortage, while there’s 60k more on the dole.
      And the Labour government’s answer to a worker shortage was to let in record number of unskilled immigrants, right?

    3. And you think the Nats (with Act?) are going to solve this? Oh yes, privitize whatever is left. What a joke!

  3. Squandered their mandate is an understatement.
    Who are the Labour party strategists?
    Surely not just the P.M. Hopekins.

  4. This is as close to the complete report summing up the train wreck that this government is. Late last year I concluded Labour as a political entity in central government was finished. But with Hipkins becoming leader that prospect backed off. But I now think he was fully wedded to the Ardern philosophy and his subsequent rhetoric was for show. The thing is, will anyone in Labour acknowledge this, much less do something about it?

  5. That’s the price for PMC arrogance.
    Sadly, we all get to pay that debt for them…

  6. This is the best analysis I have read right on the button. How can anybody refute what this blog is saying .Oct 15th will be a sad day for Labour

  7. You do not need to be a political genius to work out this list. But Dr Bryce, where do you stand? Anywhere or nowhere–perhaps just ensconced in pundit land and academia.

    I put a similar question to an old colleague of mine–Chris Trotter, re this piece…
    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2023/09/28/losing-the-left/

    “The question remains Chris…as a long time pundit with cachet among many politics followers…who are you recommending we vote for then? This column almost hints at some sort of abstain position…Greens and NZ Labour have displayed many flaws for decades…but…cough…ACT?

    You even manage to dismiss your old mate Jim. Mr Anderton was a problem for many lefties because he was anti communist, but definitely old school social democrat imo.

    Voting in bourgeois Parliamentary elections is always fraught, because so many forces are in action to maintain status quo–which in AO/NZ just happens to be 39 years of a neo liberal state and monetarism.

    That is why, ultimately new gens and boomers alike have to rediscover collectivism, community and working class organisation. Politics is a lot more than elections as we know by anti apartheid struggles, Māori renaissance, Gay Rights, Nuke Free NZ–built house by house, street by street, Council by Council, march and vigil etc…

    Groundswell has a toxic agenda but they are using the tactics the left should. And to cheer you up there is a general apology to be made on behalf of all the old commos from the 70s and 80s that regularly spent more time in sectarian shadow boxing than fighting the class enemy.“

    Do you have the balls to answer?

    1. “That is why, ultimately new gens and boomers alike have to rediscover collectivism………………”
      Ae!
      It’s going to take a while tho’ @TM. We’re going to have to go thru’ the motions.
      I’m interested: How much do you think the population of this lil ‘ole nayshun that punches above its weight has oversized egos; a loss of the concept of humility; an acceptance of a neo-liberal agenda; a yea/nah laziness and a que sera sera attitude; and as a result, a blind faith in bullshit artists – be they politicians or public servant muddle and upper management PMC’s.
      (Asking for a friend because I’m about to go for a walk that’ll go past the Mt Vic Chippery, a New World where the proprieters have a penchant for Ayshun boise; and then probably Dixon Street where our current Mayor has to ask any plebian that passes if they know who It is}
      It uzz what it uzz

  8. Bryce says
    “The Labour government of 2017 to 2023 have achieved plenty of good things, and during this election campaign they’ve had a chance to highlight their achievements.”

    If there were any then they would have campaigned on them.

    1. No one can produce a surplus large enough. You have to borrow. Accumulativeley it’s got to be near a trillion dollars for whatever has got to be done in the next 5 to 10 years. Y’all got this right?

    2. Bob/ Bob the first/John the Labour party have achieved more in 6 years than the 9 years it took National to destroy it.

  9. Quoting the benign beige Peter Dunne and the bland ‘shock jock’ Duncan Garner to try and reinforce a point of view is no endorsment of anything…

    You might as well quote Mike Hosking as well as another .
    worthless opinion.

    I note whenever ‘Kiwibuild’ is mentioned, the 100,000 homes bit is quoted, but never the 2nd part which is ‘over a period of 10 years’.

    You can’t leave bits out when it suits….there’s another 5 years to run on that policy and with the rapidly changing technology in house building going on the target number might not be too far out!

    As far as the economy is concerned it’s stupid to argue that somehow N.Z should somehow majically have not been affected with high inflation and high interest rates, like ever other country in the world has been.
    However we are one of the fastest to bring inflation down and yet have maintained one of the lowest unemployment rates in the world.

    The article just highlights that N.Z ers don’t really know what they want, and as some form of masochism, like to listen to worthless opinions
    from people who don’t know how, or don’t want to, look at the big picture.

    There’s big money in whining!

    1. If National/NZFirst/ACT were an incoming Labour government, the media would be bollocking them into outerspace for being nowhere near government-ready. But because they represent the monied classes, it literally doesn’t matter what they say, ‘all is forgiven’.

      I despise Labour, but at least they’re not going to throw disabled people out onto the bloody curbs! -and the rest!

  10. Was it not back in the time of the great depression when farmers in N.Z. were reputed to rather than feed the hungry drove their sheep stock of cliffs rather than feed the poor, and was not Coates, reputed to say when asked about the hungerd poor, let them eat grass.

    1. snark. The 1956 +. potato shortage was caused by growers dumping spuds in Sth Island riverbeds to keep the prices down.

  11. Never forget:

    It could have been much, much, much worse,

    We could have had a National party led team in charge, a few more thousand deaths from COVID, greater destruction of Government services, even wider disparity in wealth, an even worse housing market and higher level of homelessness, even more pressure put on infrastructure due to immigration pressures, next to no action on climate at all, continued fire-sales of state assets, erosion of public education and of course easy access to machine guns.

    Count one’s blessings for the escape.

    1. Yes …Richard+ Christie…i agree

      That is known as a counterfactual to the long winded one sided rant that was the article …

      The counterfactuals, that were non- existent, give context, and that is why the article is not worth the paper that it’s written on….

      …And the glib dismissal of 2 years of Covid, the affect of that on World economics, the Russia Ukraine War and the continuous unprecendented catastophic weather events in N.Z are yet another example of how poor the article rates..

  12. Excellent summary. Very thorough. It seems weird that Chris Hipkins has achieved very little of what he aimed to do in the previous six years, but he’s somehow come alive in the last 10 days and he’s firing on all cylinders. All Luxon has to do is point this fact out and the ensuing debates are essentially a waste of time. The public has already voted Labour out in their minds and their hearts. I don’t know anyone voting for Labour. Even teachers I know have lost confidence in them. Arden was a bit like the head girl of a school who gave impassioned speeches that rallied the kids, the teachers the parents, and stirred people into a new way of thinking. She became so charismatic and inspiring that the school board offered for her to be the new principal. Then she was in charge of the school – but it just didn’t work out and then she left and did something else. That’s how it feels, to be honest. The ‘Be Kind’ mantra of 2017-2022 will be remembered in the future on par with the slogans ‘Nek minit’ or ‘Yeah nah’. Kiwi slogans that only make sense to kiwis and aren’t to be taken that seriously.

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