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  1. There should not be a threshold at all! If a percentage of people want mickey mouse in so be it.
    0.8% you would have someone in.

    People will say you get too many misfits, weirdos, but surely that is true democracy.

    Meanwhile I look forward to the percentage actually being lowered as it should have been when the last inquiry was done 2001?

    What we really need is civics in schools so that teenagers actually learn the value of voting both at natiional and local level.

    1. If there was no threshold, there might actually be some real opposition in the Parliament (e.g. Matt Robson, Honé Harawira & Laila Harré would all still be there). Compulsory voting would likely increase this even further (the demoralised ex-Labour vote would be back).

      There are a grand total of zero M.P’s who support fully reversing the Roger Douglas reforms, which doesn’t represent public opinion at all. Opening up the new, younger electorate would only intensify the opposition to Reaganomics (and immediately reignite momentum for the Bernie Bros. and Corbynistas).

      1. Someone who operates under the Net Zero Act is going to be a completely different character to that of someone operating under Neoliberalism but thats not the point. The point is, it is up to those who still enjoys freedoms that this democracy blesses us with to make that transition from a relatively high carbon producing economy to a low carbon emitting economy as smooth and seemless as possible as quick as possible.

  2. The judiciary & defense lawyers with the connivance of Psychobabble 101 “experts” decided to allow diminished responsibility up to 25 years old (on the basis that brains aren’t fully developed) for serious crimes eg multiple rapes so I changed my mind on supporting Vote16.

  3. If you can’t treat 16 year Olds as adult for criminal offense you can’t let them vote

  4. But Labour have abandoned democracy with their casual dismissal of one person one vote. Ask McAnulty!

  5. I agree with adults voting – even if imprisoned. It is not a popular view.

    It may be useful to frame it as a ‘duty’ or a ‘task’ to vote – rather than a ‘right’. Prisoner Rights are not convincing arguments for many people.

    As a ‘duty’, voting becomes something that people should do, and not get let off. As a core ‘task’ of a prosocial adult in a democracy – voting becomes a rehabilitation step – like gaining or improving literacy.

  6. I really like your suggestion on individual donations and not corporate ones. Brilliant.

    But I am 100% against 16 year olds voting as they really arent up to it and it smells a lot like a very politically weighted idea.

    Neutral on prisoners, your arguments are valid but OTH, prison is supposed to be a deterrent although that may be one of those ideas that hasnt stood the test of time.

  7. Don’t know why everyone gets stressed over prisoners voting.
    50% probably wouldn’t and the other 50% aren’t really going to make a huge difference to the end result.

  8. A worthy post. Make all the people in jail study politics 101. They will find out what they can do to stay out of prison, never again!

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