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  1. At days end its all about the scramble for the lolly jar. Becoming PMC with preferential access to the goods and citizens collective cash is the name of the game. Its the educated pakeha liberals way to a happy life, and if non pakeha join in, all good, welcome, it reinforces the model.
    Meanwhile this has to be paid for by production, real wealth generation, not administration and dances with Woke ideas. That means working NZers and business owners fighting one another for a pie increasingly eaten by the PMC. In turn that would indicate both capital and workers will turn on the PMC and any institutions that they control, such as the Crown. Fun times.

  2. As shown recently in Chile: the moment any of the radical Maori agenda being (now) blatantly push by the government, PMC and media gets put to referendum it will struck down hard.

    All Luxon or (more likely) Seymour have to do is keep promising a referendum on the abortion that is He Puapua, hell even just the official use of Aotearoa being forced in everywhere, and the right will win the next election.

    1. Exclamation Mark If Luxon is smart he may suggest that the Maori king apologise to Maori whose
      ancestors were stolen from and butchered from by other warring tribes and who were also frequently eaten by them. The Maori king could ponder cannibalised barbecued live little babies, and consider thanking the colonials who put an end to that particularly vile and cruel practice.

    2. Yup as soon as any of this woke shit goes to referendum it will be like the shitshow has run into a brick wall.

  3. Good commentary Chris. It’s about time this was brought to a head, and we could all get on with making NZ a better place.

  4. One small problem. Ask any Maori outside of the kingitanga area if Tuheitia is their king. Expanding the kingdom is not an idea that would be received in any other rohe.

  5. One small problem. Ask any Maori outside of the kingitanga area if Tuheitia is their king. Expanding the kingdom is not an idea that would be received in any other rohe.

  6. As you imply, the difficulty that the Maori Party proposal has is that it requires majority support.
    For the last 40 years the constitutional changes that have occurred in Maori Pakeha relations have been incremental. Involving judicial and legislative steps. That has been enough to bring about Te Reo as an official language, kura Kaupapa schools, treaty settlements and a much greater Maori role in the governance and social fabric of the nation.
    Direct change to our parliamentary system is much more difficult. it require either a 75% vote in parliament of a referendum. Neither are likely. As the vote in Chile has just shown.
    Instead we will continue a more incremental approach.

    1. The managerial class are always trying to dive under the minimum. Those opposed to three waters want at least the maintenance of one person one vote. It’s obvious why they want that, their votes are currently worth less than one. I’m happy to have the rights and privileges caped at one person one vote for all.

  7. My word it’s boring, isn’t it. Reminds me of our little daughter, aged about 3, kicking up a fuss in a family gathering because she wasn’t getting a chance to talk. When all the grown-ups stopped talking to let her have a turn, she couldn’t think of anything to say. Yes yes we all need a turn, but let’s for God’s sake get our brains in gear first.

  8. We have a comfortable constitutional convention where our notional head of state, now King Charles III, is represented by a Governor-General whose relevance to our government is entirely ceremonial.
    Matthew Hooton recently proposed that we could replace the British monarch by appointing Aoraki/Mount Cook president, presumably eternal president like North Korea’s Kim Il-sung of unhappy memory. And nothing would change.
    The Aoraki suggestion illustrates that we need neither king nor president.
    Parliament is sovereign: a parliamentary democracy needs a head of state like a fish needs a bicycle.
    We should replace both distant monarch and local GG not with a head of state by any name, but something useful: a constitutional court of the Chief Justice and two other Supreme Court justices, whose duties would be to appoint prime ministers and governments, and to guard us against tyranny by approving or rejecting legislation and by dismissing governments that sought to infringe on our liberties as defined by the Bill of Rights.
    And we could make this change by simple act of Parliament, though it would clearly need to be entrenched by a supermajority.

    1. Sure a modern democracy merely needs oversight or guardianship of the process. And thus any change should involve as little politics as possible.

      However I would not compare the foreign monarch to a local mountain but to an island (and its constitutional tradition within its parliamentary system) called Britain (to many Pakeha as a Taiwan/Atiu/Raiatea to Maori).

      I suppose one could have a Crown Governorship Council perform the duties currently performed by the GG as agent of the foreign/disinterested royal. The use of the term Crown would be important so as to legal continuity and why some prefer a person in office as Crown Governor.

      However the idea that there would be real power held by a legal authority to reject legislation and depose elected governments is a major change to that offshore Britain tradition that we have inherited. What you suggest would result in a politicisation of judicial appointments and we know where that leads … (SCOTUS).

      A Crown Governorship Council made up of a Crown Governor, and say say a public servant and a former justice to provide expert advice might work better.

  9. Surely if there is no presence from the Crown in New Zealand as in a republic then the Treaty becomes worthless.

    1. Meh. The only party acting in reference to the Crown as Treaty partner is the New Zealand government. And the Crown obligation, in reference to the Treaty, would only be more directly connected to the New Zealand government if the “Crown” was no longer represented by a foreign person (and thus the GG here) but the New Zealand nation state.

  10. “We should replace both distant monarch and local GG not with a head of state by any name, but something useful: a constitutional court of the Chief Justice and two other Supreme Court justices, whose duties would be to appoint prime ministers and governments, and to guard us against tyranny by approving or rejecting legislation and by dismissing governments that sought to infringe on our liberties as defined by the Bill of Rights.”

    Like the rogue US Supreme Court is guarding against tyranny there?

  11. “We should replace both distant monarch and local GG not with a head of state by any name, but something useful: a constitutional court of the Chief Justice and two other Supreme Court justices, whose duties would be to appoint prime ministers and governments, and to guard us against tyranny by approving or rejecting legislation and by dismissing governments that sought to infringe on our liberties as defined by the Bill of Rights.”

    Like the rogue US Supreme Court is guarding against tyranny there?

  12. Tuheitia Paki should have no more part to play in a modern Aotearoa New Zealand than any other citizen. Charles Windsor should play no part.

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