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  1. I’d be interested to know how the likes of Cloe, or Ricardo (just for example) really really feel about it all.
    I keep thinking it really is just going to all play out. It has to before any sort of rebuilding can begin.
    Let’s hope though, that after the ’23 result, various politicians don’t expect “us” – this team of 5 million – to feel any sympathy for them.
    And in Labour, I wonder about some of their relatively intelligent beings. Nactoids are committed ideologues stuck in the old world, so they’re just going to have to disappear up their own arses where they definitely will expect the rest of “us” to feel sympathy for them.
    I guess one day it might dawn on them that it’s time to change the cistern in which they operate. It gives me motivation to do my best to live into my 70s and 80s to watch it all. With a bit of luck I might be able to empty my colostomy bag on their places of burial. (THere’s hope @Countryboy). And good to see so far that a few of them have had their karma even if a few others have been casualties of their “pieces of work”.
    It’d be a pleasure to return a tiny part of their shit

    1. There will be no “team of 5 million” should Nact get in. The country will be divided into a them and us situation. People think crime is bad now, just wait until Nact get in, the crime rate will be 10 fold.
      Whilst house prices are being corrected now and houses built, Nact will reverse that Stat as the have always done in power.

      1. LOL that team of 5 million has worn really thin Bert. You’re part of the team unless you’re :
        >a ‘dirty dairy’ farmer
        >a tradie with a ute
        >a boomer with a renter
        >a gas station owner
        >a supermarket owner
        >refuse to get vaccinated
        >or are of purely European descent

  2. Excellent article Chris. Great point about the use of use of Boomer terminology as a distraction from the economics underneath. At heart the David Shaw leadership of co-option and co-operation means they have lost their foundation. I think he just saw it as sensible and pragmatic and it is anything but. Thank you.

    1. James Shaw I think Stephen – careful or you will lose credibility. but i have noted that there seem a lot of Davids. I have quite gone off the name.

  3. Probably most of the successful NZs have either made their money from housing, dairy cows, property or modern tech. There is a life outside those main divisions but who cares? They can live where they please and it doesn’t please them to think about their fairytale lifestyle, like water striders*, while others plod on if they are committed to living amongst other ordinary persons. *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-8i_HIwkkA

    A man famous for making money is Graeme Hart, follow his advice and maybe you can get to be a billionaire.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/473298/graeme-hart-inducted-into-nz-business-hall-of-fame
    Go on – get on wirh it what’s holding you back? Lack of clear goals from the first can mean that you don’t prepare yourself for life. And that is what you have to do, not wait for life to come to you. Making lots of money is not the task, it is being able to earn enough to manage and make a living for yourself. That’s hard today, to do that but looking at the empty RTD bottles out for collection indicates to me that some just squander much of their income. Hart was lucky that he had a father who’d help and the bank came forward too. But working right is then needed. He could have come a bumper.

    Someone who showed initiative and came a bumper I think, dying at only 51. She deserves honouring. More than Hart, for the good she was trying to do, not just for the money that she might make and a bounteous life. I hope she did receive that.
    2006 Beautiful tall poppy’ dies
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/beautiful-tall-poppy-dies/R5LY4J735DPC2U3D7YIJYAB5ZI/

    Larger-than-life entrepreneur Karroll Brent-Edmondson died in Auckland yesterday afternoon, aged 51, after a 14-month battle with cancer.
    The award-winning businesswoman was behind the company KT Footwear, which hired long-term unemployed young Maori to make children’s shoes in South Auckland.
    The former ward of the state – who learned how to read and write only after leaving school – set up the firm in 1991 after returning from Australia, where she ran restaurants and a soup kitchen for expatriate Maori.

    Still this self-satisfied saying actually has a big lump of truth – ‘I’m often lucky, and the more I think and the more effort and work I put into my affairs, the luckier I get.’ So Hart saw opportunities and worked at them. He was poised and ready and in his element like the water strider. When NZ’s shell of complacency and regular union handouts and cost of living rises was fractured, he was among the other seagulls waiting to get some goodies.
    IDEA – The seagull needs to be our logo bird, they are so us, like chips, cheeky and big individualists, but always ready for a handout – from the bennie level to the selling of state assets at marked down prices, and specially engineered low tenders winners.

    (Kiwis need to be the logo for our Conservation and environment efforts, along with the Black Robin or Chatham Island Robin,* a triumph of careful preservation we should be proud of; also in he team – kakapo, kea and the albatross.)
    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_robin – It was first described by Walter Buller in 1872

  4. What public housing policy could have hoped to deal with that massive extra million people as we become the (fleeting) team of five million?

    At its heart the current housing crisis is a failure of immigration policy.

    And we still don’t have a coherent immigration policy from the Government.
    And we still don’t have a coherent immigration policy from the Opposition.

    A plague on all our houses…

  5. Greens might not bully within their party, but they sure as hell like to bully those who don’t agree with their ideologies.

  6. Why Are The Greens Enabling Private Property Developers?
    YES.

    Have they made rents go up and become scarcer?
    YES.

    Do the taxpayers now have huge debts from more renters paying a fortune to private corporate ventures such as hotels and Compass stays?
    YES.

    Do students now die in student hostels but nobody discovers them, even as the corporate bills them for their stay while dead?
    YES.

    Are more and more working class and professionals leaving NZ as they are tired of stupid policy that helps few middle class people living here, in particular does not help mums and dads trying to get ahead and save, while spending everyones taxes on corporate subsidies?
    YES.

    Are people sick of the Greens pretending to help Maori with virtue signalling and Te reo, as their lives are worse and everyone elses by poorly thought out policy that they never deliver on and then go on to wreck something else?
    YES.

  7. Well I am surprised that from all these comments not one points out that the basic point of Chris’s post is to compare a policy of funding property developers to build housing now is somehow different from what te labour government did all those years ago when James Fletcher , New Zealand’s most successful property developer in history persuaded the then Labour government to contract him to build thousands of state houses. It set him up to form the huge Fletcher multinational that we all grew up with.
    Please explain Chris what is the difference between then and now? In what way was funding a property developer to build housing then different from funding property developers to build houses now ?
    D J S

    1. Because somehow big executive and shareholder profits and not delivering services in the 21st century have become the mainstream. Thus corporates from pre 1980’s are a completely different beast to post 1980’s corporates. Not just in NZ – happening around the world as corporates buy up state assets cheaply, then selll them back as expensive services to the state.

      “In 1996, the Ministry of Defence decided to sell off its housing stock. The financier Guy Hands bought it up in a deal that would make his investors billions – and have catastrophic consequences for both the military and the taxpayer.”
      https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/apr/25/mod-privatise-military-housing-disaster-guy-hands

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